GFZ's, by there very nature, are putting more illegally own guns on the street.

[24Carat]

This isn't a stretch of the imagine.

It's a cause / effect that can be laid at the feet of the anti-gun hoplophobes.

NFL and nightclub firearms rules ?putting guns on the street? in Detroit - National gun rights | Examiner.com

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

So either leave the gun at home, or better yet don't frequent a venue that doesn't allow carry.

 

[Yup!]

So either leave the gun at home, or better yet don't frequent a venue that doesn't allow carry.

so it's the gun owners fault their weapons are stolen?

 

[24Carat]

So either leave the gun at home, or better yet don't frequent a venue that doesn't allow carry.

So massive venues that don't allow firearms are in no way responsible for the reported rash of vehicle B&E's and the subsequent increase of firearms on the street in the wrongs hands?

Or did I miss the implied purple?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

so it's the gun owners fault their weapons are stolen?

Is it the fault of the venue because guns aren't allowed inside? If you want to frequent said venue you have 2 choices, leave the gun at home or don't frequent the venue. I personally can't afford to have a gun stolen so I don't put myself in situations where I have to leave it in my vehicle unless I absolutely can't help it.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

So massive venues that don't allow firearms are in no way responsible for the reported rash of vehicle B&E's and the subsequent increase of firearms on the street in the wrongs hands?

Or did I miss the implied purple?

The owner/agent of the venue isn't responsible for what someone does with their property. If a patron chooses to leave their gun in the car, thats on them. Vehicle B&Es where a gun is stolen don't only occur in large parking lots. Has anyone *****ed about gun owners leaving guns in a vehicle parked in their driveway with said gun being stolen and "falling into the wrong hands?"

 

[24Carat]

Is it the fault of the venue because guns aren't allowed inside? If you want to frequent said venue you have 2 choices, leave the gun at home or don't frequent the venue. I personally can't afford to have a gun stolen so I don't put myself in situations where I have to leave it in my vehicle unless I absolutely can't help it.

I think the premise of the article is getting missed here. It doesn't have anything to do with private property rights nor even poor decisions being made by firearm owners leaving a weapon in a locked storage container that has glass as a barrier.

In my opinion, the disconnect that is offered up here is shinning a light on the shallow examination usually given the specter of firearms making it into the hands of criminals. It is a direct comparison to the smoke and mirror tactics practiced by knee jerk hoplophobes who only hold out a minute example of contributing factors to support their narrow view while never allowing consideration of how their solutions actually contribute to the problem.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I think the premise of the article is getting missed here. It doesn't have anything to do with private property rights nor even poor decisions being made by firearm owners leaving a weapon in a locked storage container that has glass as a barrier.

In my opinion, the disconnect that is offered up here is shinning a light on the shallow examination usually given the specter of firearms making it into the hands of criminals. It is a direct comparison to the smoke and mirror tactics practiced by knee jerk hoplophobes who only hold out a minute example of contributing factors to support their narrow view while never allowing consideration of how their solutions actually contribute to the problem.

I have no idea what you just said.

 

[Rookie]

I have no idea what you just said.

Did you carry the one and then subtract five? Try that.

 

[Yup!]

I have no idea what you just said.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

[24Carat]

Sorry, I grew up with a Grandmother that was an English teacher when it was considered a valuable tool in life and a vocabulary that has served me well in learned circles.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Sorry, I grew up with a Grandmother that was an English teacher when it was considered a valuable tool in life and a vocabulary that has served me well in learned circles.

Grandmother is supposed to be capitalized?! I've been doing it wrong all these years. If you would like to continue this conversation, drop the uppity attitude and use terms that us public school simpletons can understand.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Grandmother is supposed to be capitalized?! I've been doing it wrong all these years. If you would like to continue this conversation, drop the uppity attitude and use terms that us public school simpletons can understand.

If it is at the beginning of a sentence maybe.

 

[Rookie]

Sorry, I grew up with a Grandmother that was an English teacher when it was considered a valuable tool in life and a vocabulary that has served me well in learned circles.

I'm thinking that there is some punctuation missing, but my grandmother wasn't an English teacher.

 

[nakinate]

Sorry, I grew up with a grandmother who was an English teacher when it was considered a valuable tool in life and a vocabulary that has served me well in learned circles.

I fixed some of it, but screw the rest. It is a run-on sentence. This is for you CPT Nervous!

 

[Lectric102002]

I got in a learned circle once. I got dizzy.

 

[24Carat]

Grandmother is supposed to be capitalized?! I've been doing it wrong all these years. If you would like to continue this conversation, drop the uppity attitude and use terms that us public school simpletons can understand.

Yessa massa! I'll jump right on that uppity thing if you agree to not hide behind your self appointed simpleton label.
Bet it burns your tush when uppity folk don't kowtow to your authoritative simpleton act. Where did you learn that Frank ???

 

[nakinate]

Yessa massa! I'll jump right on that uppity thing if you agree to not hide behind your self appointed simpleton label.
Bet it burns your tush when uppity folk don't kowtow to your authoritative simpleton act. Where did you learn that Frank ???

really? Come on now.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Yessa massa! I'll jump right on that uppity thing if you agree to not hide behind your self appointed simpleton label.
Bet it burns your tush when uppity folk don't kowtow to your authoritative simpleton act. Where did you learn that Frank ???

Its not a label. I use plain English in my everyday interactions and don't try to impress anyone with fancy words or holier-than-thou attitudes. You should try it sometime.

 

[nakinate]

Its not a label. I use plain English in my everyday interactions and don't try to impress anyone with fancy words or holier-than-thou attitudes. You should try it sometime.

Frank, you just don't understand. Maybe you would if you lived in an opulent town home community too.