...or not.
Look I want to clear this up and I think this is the right place to do that (sorry mods if it's not). I don't come here to troll anyone. I came here a long time ago -- before I ever registered to find out about guns. Admittedly there are some on here that I truly believe live in caves lined with tin foil and who think Obama is personally listening to their thoughts. There are some of you on here who are so far right that anyone who doesn't believe just like you is a terrorist.
But there are at least a couple of you who at least listen and will engage in a thoughtful discussion.
I came here because I was interested in gun politics. My little brother is into guns (cares nothing at all about politics) and I learned and listened and changed my opinion from being a gun hater, to a gun rights advocate. But I also saw some disturbingly inaccurate posts on the political section saying such things as "Obamacare means free healthcare for the illegals" (it doesn't). So I do interject and provide a counter point or show facts that prove otherwise. I do still listen and oddly what started out as me coming here to learn about guns has turned into what seems to be some interesting arguments on the political section. I say interesting, because some people listen and have facts of their own or interesting opinions.
But one thing I'm not here to do is to intentionally **** anyone off (if my having a different opinion pisses you off...you should really evaluate the triggers that anger you). If all you want is a circle jerk where everyone believes the same spew about how Obama is some self-appointed king (despite being elected) out to destroy the USA and is some sort of bearer of the end of times, then just let me know. I'll try and not reply to your comments.
There are some of you who have made me feel welcome or who have engaged me in an intelligent debate. Churchmouse comes to mind as someone who totally doesn't agree with just about anything I do, and yet he is still respectful. Que is another one.
I don't intend on leaving ingunowners.com unless the mods or the admins want me to. Thus far I've not heard them say any such thing and I'll admit that sometimes I slip on being respectful and I'm sure there are times that I don't listen as well as I ought to. When someone says something that I think is a valid point or objection I try to acknowledge it. I'm not trying to change hearts and minds, I just point out what I think is an incorrect opinion and I try to, as much as I can, back it up with facts.
You guys should also note the "Site Supporter" next to my name...if I was truly here to troll I wouldn't have spent the money. If you somehow feel "threatened" by "a few voices" that are speaking up, then that's pretty sad and is all too telling of the biggest problem America faces: no one talks to tries to listen to the other side anymore. The entire country is nearly gridlocked with conservatives and liberals fighting to the point that they're forgetting what made this country run: people working out their differences and combining ideas.
I just felt like that needed to be said.
^^^ That would be indicative of the problem with this country. Because I have a different opinion than him I'm automatically an idiot who doesn't deserve to live in the country I was born in. I'm also a coward, despite my not backing down from him. I'm also apparently actively working to destroy the country I love.
Look I want to clear this up and I think this is the right place to do that (sorry mods if it's not). I don't come here to troll anyone. I came here a long time ago -- before I ever registered to find out about guns. Admittedly there are some on here that I truly believe live in caves lined with tin foil and who think Obama is personally listening to their thoughts. There are some of you on here who are so far right that anyone who doesn't believe just like you is a terrorist.
But there are at least a couple of you who at least listen and will engage in a thoughtful discussion.
I came here because I was interested in gun politics. My little brother is into guns (cares nothing at all about politics) and I learned and listened and changed my opinion from being a gun hater, to a gun rights advocate. But I also saw some disturbingly inaccurate posts on the political section saying such things as "Obamacare means free healthcare for the illegals" (it doesn't). So I do interject and provide a counter point or show facts that prove otherwise. I do still listen and oddly what started out as me coming here to learn about guns has turned into what seems to be some interesting arguments on the political section. I say interesting, because some people listen and have facts of their own or interesting opinions.
But one thing I'm not here to do is to intentionally **** anyone off (if my having a different opinion pisses you off...you should really evaluate the triggers that anger you). If all you want is a circle jerk where everyone believes the same spew about how Obama is some self-appointed king (despite being elected) out to destroy the USA and is some sort of bearer of the end of times, then just let me know. I'll try and not reply to your comments.
There are some of you who have made me feel welcome or who have engaged me in an intelligent debate. Churchmouse comes to mind as someone who totally doesn't agree with just about anything I do, and yet he is still respectful. Que is another one.
I don't intend on leaving ingunowners.com unless the mods or the admins want me to. Thus far I've not heard them say any such thing and I'll admit that sometimes I slip on being respectful and I'm sure there are times that I don't listen as well as I ought to. When someone says something that I think is a valid point or objection I try to acknowledge it. I'm not trying to change hearts and minds, I just point out what I think is an incorrect opinion and I try to, as much as I can, back it up with facts.
You guys should also note the "Site Supporter" next to my name...if I was truly here to troll I wouldn't have spent the money. If you somehow feel "threatened" by "a few voices" that are speaking up, then that's pretty sad and is all too telling of the biggest problem America faces: no one talks to tries to listen to the other side anymore. The entire country is nearly gridlocked with conservatives and liberals fighting to the point that they're forgetting what made this country run: people working out their differences and combining ideas.
I just felt like that needed to be said.
Go away. You are on my "ignore list" as I do not have time to argue with an idiot. Move to France or somewhere else where idiots and cowards and those who believe the masterminds in government should rule over us like masters over slaves. I believe in a supreme God, you worship frail men. I have nothing more to say. It is you and your kind who are destroying this greatest country in the history of the world,. Thread closed as far as I am concerned.
^^^ That would be indicative of the problem with this country. Because I have a different opinion than him I'm automatically an idiot who doesn't deserve to live in the country I was born in. I'm also a coward, despite my not backing down from him. I'm also apparently actively working to destroy the country I love.