Winning the Libertarian vote

[Cerberus]

The choice to not supporting legislation that prohibits abortion is not the same thing as being pro-abortion.

Some people are too ignorant to notice the difference. Kinda like those that think just because some of us are against pre-emptive strike, that we are against war.

To me;
abortion is evil.
government is evil.
Evil+Evil, does not = Good
Anyone besides me remember the old wisdom of two wrongs not making a right?

 

[Expat]

Some people are too ignorant to notice the difference. Kinda like those that think just because some of us are against pre-emptive strike, that we are against war.

Yeah, we are all to ignorant to know the difference, like Congressman Paul.

 

[Cerberus]

Yeah, we are all to ignorant to know the difference, like Congressman Paul.

Feeling guilty?

I said some, not all.

 

[rambone]

Abortion should be a state issue. That should be the extent of the debate necessary at a Federal level, when we are choosing our next president. Being pro-life or pro-choice only matters if we are choosing state reps. Ron Paul agrees.

 

[chris46131]

No, we don't. You might, but there are a lot of us who don't wish to do that. Let me fix it for you.

So, i have to ask... Is there not a single law on the books aywhere that you support? Because EVERY law is based on SOMEONE'S morality.

 

[Cerberus]

So, i have to ask... Is there not a single law on the books aywhere that you support? Because EVERY law is based on SOMEONE'S morality.

Don't disrespect you parents
Don't commit murder
Don't fornicate with your neighbors spouse
Don't steal
Don't lie about you neighbor
Don't envy other peoples stuff, go earn your own.

Until we get these 6 simple things right, we don't need to add millions more to the list.

 

[mrjarrell]

So, i have to ask... Is there not a single law on the books aywhere that you support? Because EVERY law is based on SOMEONE'S morality.

Don't commit murder. Don't steal. Beyond that, not sure we need many more, if any.

 

[chris46131]

Don't commit murder. Don't steal. Beyond that, not sure we need many more, if any.

And i'm sure we would all agree with those two examples...because we all feel those things are wrong...morally.

 

[Expat]

Don't commit murder. Don't steal. Beyond that, not sure we need many more, if any.

Rape, assault, child molest, arson... Those are okay?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Rape, assault, child molest, arson... Those are okay?

Heaven's no!

Prohibition doesn't work. Everybody knows two wrongs don't make it right.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Can we at least agree that my inability to legally purchase beer at Wal-Mart on Sunday is ridiculous?

If so, I will concede to you that rape is a crime.

 

[foszoe]

So if we just pass a law, the unborn will no longer be murdered or abused?

So unless a law is incapable of being broken, you favor its repeal?

 

[hornadylnl]

Can we at least agree that my inability to legally purchase beer at Wal-Mart on Sunday is ridiculous?

If so, I will concede to you that rape is a crime.

In before the "it's your fault for not planning ahead" crowd.

 

[hornadylnl]

So unless a law is incapable of being broken, you favor its repeal?

Well, we know abortion being against the law didn't prevent a medical facility and it's employees from performing them.

 

[Cerberus]

Rape, assault, child molest, arson... Those are okay?

Do they violate another's rights? The answer is yes. So therefore those are not OK, and you know the answer.

Stop the hair splitting. It's not right when the "left" does it, and it's no more right when the "right" does it. Just the same worn out ends justifies the means tactic.

 

[foszoe]

And, as is often the case with you, you're wrong. I don't know any libertarians who want to pass laws. Especially those based on something as subjective as an individuals moral code. We'd like to see laws repealed, not put in place.

Didn't Ron Paul say he favored states regulating abortion?

 

[Cerberus]

Heaven's no!

Prohibition doesn't work. Everybody knows two wrongs don't make it right.

This has got to be one of the most irrelivent things posted.

 

[foszoe]

You are so misguided. I am personally against abortion and would advocate life verses the alternative, but would not want a law restricting it. People's personal opinions/morals/principles should not be placed upon other citizens by law.
As noted earlier, prohibition has never worked and attempts to enforce it only costs the tax payers more for its failure.

Please delineate your position from the following.

I am personally against murder, but would not want a law restricting it.

 

[foszoe]

Well, we know abortion being against the law didn't prevent a medical facility and it's employees from performing them.

Even if we do know that, we still don't know your answer to my question.

 

[Cerberus]

Why do far too many not understand that something that is derived from a right, ie LIFE, does not derive from morality.

No one has the right to take a life unless theirs is being threatened, and then may defend theirs against another who is trying to end their right.

This is a concept that conservatives a decade ago understood easily. WTF!