Winning the Libertarian vote

[hacksawfg]

Don't know if this has been posted or not, but interesting read nonetheless.

3 Ways Romney, Ryan, and the Republicans Can Woo Libertarian Voters - Hit & Run : Reason.com

 

[mrjarrell]

Ain't gonna happen. Obamney will in no way embrace any of those points. He's going to go the complete opposite on them, as we've already heard from him. I don't see him and his little buddy doing anything to garner the libertarian vote.

 

[Rob377]

Libertarians will only vote for our lord and savior, Ron Paul.

Everyone else is a statist fascist nazi, no different from Obama and Hitlers' evil love child. (it was a test tube thing, don't ask)

 

[mrjarrell]

Libertarians will only vote for our lord and savior, Ron Paul.

Everyone else is a statist fascist nazi, no different from Obama and Hitlers' evil love child. (it was a test tube thing, don't ask)

Not true in the least. Most libertarians are going to vote for the libertarian candidate. Many more will write in Ron Paul and others will just refuse to play the game at all.

 

[Classic Liberal]

Nick nailed it, but that is a super tall order to ask of a statist candidate. Not going to happen.

 

[rambone]

I have no faith that any of those things would occur under either Obama or Romney.

 

[Expat]

I think some libertarians will vote for Romney and some will vote for Obama (probably fewer than did so last time). Most Republicans wouldn't be able to stomach the changes that they would have to make to go all out for Libertarians, nor would the Democrats.

 

[hacksawfg]

And therein lies the rub - Republicans want to legislate their own morality instead of accepting the fact that others may choose to live their lives under a different set of values, and Democrats think regulating everything makes it better.

 

[downzero]

I have no faith that any of those things would occur under either Obama or Romney.

Yep.


This bull**** is getting so prevalent that I'm thinking about voting for Obama just to spite the people who think that libertarians can be wooed by the same republicans that created this mess.

Okay so I'm not voting for Obama, but I might stay home. Screw this election.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

And therein lies the rub - Republicans want to legislate their own morality instead of accepting the fact that others may choose to live their lives under a different set of values, and Democrats think regulating everything makes it better.

We all want to legislate our own morality. I think life is an important morality to stand for.

Republicans want to sharply curtail reproductive freedom

 

[hornadylnl]

We all want to legislate our own morality.

Really?

There sure are one hell of a lot of laws that I want to repeal.

 

[mrjarrell]

I want to legislate my own morality. I think life is an important morality to stand for.

No, we don't. You might, but there are a lot of us who don't wish to do that. Let me fix it for you.

 

[hornadylnl]

We all want to legislate our own morality. I think life is an important morality to stand for.

You've added since I quoted. That is covered by property rights.

 

[88GT]

No, we don't. You might, but there are a lot of us who don't wish to do that. Let me fix it for you.

Yes, you do. You just don't see your worldview as a morality. But it is.

The term “morality” can be used either

1. descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or,

a. some other group, such as a religion, or​

b. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or​

2.normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.

If that doesn't describe the libertarians, I don't know what does.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

You've added since I quoted. That is covered by property rights.

Is it? Libertarians like to claim they own their own bodies, but apparently if you've got an umbilical cord attached to you, you don't have those rights...hypocrites.

 

[hornadylnl]

Is it? Libertarians like to claim they own their own bodies, but apparently if you've got an umbilical cord attached to you, you don't have those rights...hypocrites.

So if we just pass a law, the unborn will no longer be murdered or abused?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Yes, you do. You just don't see your worldview as a morality. But it is.



If that doesn't describe the libertarians, I don't know what does.

I don't know why it's so hard to see. I guess when you're blinded by your ideology, you can't see the legitimacy of alternative opinions, lifestyles, and beliefs.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So if we just pass a law, the unborn will no longer be murdered or abused?

If this were the scale we're to use in all aspects of life, would any law need be passed?

 

[hornadylnl]

If this were the scale we're to use in all aspects of life, would any law need be passed?

Very few. Property rights.

 

[Cerberus]

GFGT, my Great Grandmother's adoptive mother aborted at least 14 pregnancies all before 1910. Abortion was illegal then and it didn't stop anyone. Laws don't prevent, they just provide a way to prosecute.

Prohibitions have never worked, never. They often have the opposite effect.

Pull you head out of your 4th point of contact. Very few Libertarians are actually pro-abortion, they just aren't for letting fedzilla stick his nose in another tent.