Why shouldn't I be able to carry?

[Quad]

I was sitting in class today and we started discussing the shooting up in Ft. Wayne over the weekend. A LEO in the class then said "If you aren't a cop, you shouldn't carry." He couldn't give me a good reason as to why we shouldn't carry. INGO I come to you to ask, why not?

That wasn't officer Maxey was it?

 

[ViperJock]

OP, I can see INGO has been filling you full of, well, Horse**** as usual. There are a few very good reasons why you shouldn't carry. Here is my top 10 list:
10. Prolonged carry can wear down the leather on your expensive belt.
9. You can develop a neuropathy known as "gunslinger's neuropathy" from continuous pressure against the superficial femoral nerve.
8. You have to go through the arduous process to obtain a LTCH (to do it legally)
7. Who has time to sort out all the INGO expert posts on XDm vs M&P vs Glock vs 1911?
6. as above but .380 vs 9mm vs .40 vs .45?
5. You will likely be kicked out of the Michael Moore fan club.
4. You may be forced to write a 3 page diatribe on the people that gave you dirty looks while OC.
3. It will give you a false sense of security (see post on why preppers will die without ROL)
2. If by chance either Obama or Romney win they will ban your gun and you will be out a few hundred bucks or so.
1. AND the number one reason you should NOT be allowed to carry; If you run into me after I posted this I don't want you to be able to provide me with my just desserts.

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. I'll be here all week...

BTW In regards to your avatar; I believe Zombie Hunting is a states rights issue so....

 

[threefiftyfour]

OP, I can see INGO has been filling you full of, well, Horse**** as usual. There are a few very good reasons why you shouldn't carry. Here is my top 10 list:
10. Prolonged carry can wear down the leather on your expensive belt.
9. You can develop a neuropathy known as "gunslinger's neuropathy" from continuous pressure against the superficial femoral nerve.
8. You have to go through the arduous process to obtain a LTCH (to do it legally)
7. Who has time to sort out all the INGO expert posts on XDm vs M&P vs Glock vs 1911?
6. as above but .380 vs 9mm vs .40 vs .45?
5. You will likely be kicked out of the Michael Moore fan club.
4. You may be forced to write a 3 page diatribe on the people that gave you dirty looks while OC.
3. It will give you a false sense of security (see post on why preppers will die without ROL)
2. If by chance either Obama or Romney win they will ban your gun and you will be out a few hundred bucks or so.
1. AND the number one reason you should NOT be allowed to carry; If you run into me after I posted this I don't want you to be able to provide me with my just desserts.

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. I'll be here all week...

after reading all of these well thought out reasons, I am going to go throw all of my guns into the dried out creek behind my house.

 

[Indy Wing Chun]

after reading all of these well thought out reasons, I am going to go throw all of my guns into the dried out creek behind my house.

I gave mine to a 5 year old girl.

 

[Fixer]

after reading all of these well thought out reasons, I am going to go throw all of my guns into the dried out creek behind my house.

Where did you say you lived?

 

[beachhead40]

The Number one reason that we should not be able to carry is.....We might be able to defend our selfs against bacon weilding ninjas!

 

[KG1]

Tell that LEO he should go convince all the scumbag criminals to give up their guns and leave us law abiding citizens and our 2A rights out of it.

 

[ghuns]

"if you're not a cop you shouldn't carry a gun. You're asking for trouble and you'll eventually get yourself killed."

Ask him for his personal cell number so you can call HIM if you ever need someone "qualified" to carry a gun to defend yourself. That is, as long as he owns a teleporter, or a car capable of speed-o-light travel. And provided you can get the BG to wait to assault you while you ring him up.

 

[stephen87]

Lmao! I'm gonna tell him that. I already have his number, so it'll make him wonder. It's not HIS duty to protect me, it's mine. I think.

 

[2A_Tom]

Because you are creepy.

Purple!?, we don't need no stinkin' purple.

 

[mrortega]

after reading all of these well thought out reasons, I am going to go throw all of my guns into the dried out creek behind my house.

I'll be in the area this weekend. Tell me where you live, leave all your guns on the front porch (or in the junker parked in the front yard jacked up on blocks) and I'll properly dispose of then for you.

 

[10-32]

you'll shoot your eye out

yes? Did someone call me?

Seen that one coming. lmao

I must have missed it. Did the holder of a valid LTCH shoot someone in Ft. Wayne this weekend?

Convicted felon by the name of Traneilous L. Jackson did the shooting. Can't figure out why someone with a history like his is still out walking the streets.

Here's his CCH.

02D04-0506-IF-008930
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/20/2005
Allen Superior Court 6
IF - Infraction
Decided
NO SAFETY BELT/PASSENGER


02D04-0704-MC-000687
Jackson, Traneilous L
04/09/2007
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal
Decided
P.C. REC STOLEN PROPERTY
POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA
CARRYING HANDGUN W/O LICENSE


02D04-0805-CM-003466
Jackson, Traneilous L
05/27/2008
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
CARRYING HANDGUN W/O LICENSE


02D04-0902-CM-000749
Jackson, Traneilous L
02/10/2009
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA
DRIVING LEFT CENTER

02D04-0906-IF-007113
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/03/2009
Allen Superior Court 4
IF - Infraction
Decided
OPERATE WHILE SUSP (INF)
EXCEED MAX LAWFUL SPEEDS


02D04-0906-IF-007416
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/08/2009
Allen Superior Court 6
IF - Infraction
Decided
NO OP. LICENSE IN POSS'N


02D05-1010-MC-002141
JACKSON, TRANEILOUS L
10/05/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-43-4-2(b)/FD: Receiving Stolen Property
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D05-1010-FC-000230
Jackson, Traneilous L.
10/08/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
FC - Class C Felony
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D05-1011-MC-002427
Jackson, Traneilous L
11/10/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-48-4-11/FD: Possession Marijuana/Hash Oil/Hashish - Amount Involved OR Prior Conviction
35-43-4-2(b)/FD: Receiving Stolen Property
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)
9-19-19-4(c)/IFC: Window Tint Violation by Driver


02D06-1011-FC-000267
Jackson, Traneilous L
11/16/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
FC - Class C Felony
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-48-4-11/FD: Possession Marijuana/Hash Oil/Hashish - Amount Involved OR Prior Conviction
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D04-1105-CM-003090
Jackson, Traneilous L
05/24/2011
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
35-42-2-1(a)(1)(A)/MA: Battery Resulting in Bodily Injury


***These charges are pending***
02D05-1209-MC-002429
JACKSON, TRANEILOUS L
09/10/2012
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Pending
35-42-2-1.5/FB: Aggravated Battery: knowingly or intentionally inflicts injury on a person
35-42-2-2(c)(3)(A)/FC: Crim Recklessness-Shot Firearm Into Inhab Dwelling/Other Gathering Place
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-42-2-1(a)(3)/FC: Battery Committed by Means of a Deadly Weapon or Resulting in SBI


With people like this walking around is EXACTLY why you SHOULD be carrying.

 

[Compuvette]

Seen that one coming. lmao




Convicted felon by the name of Traneilous L. Jackson did the shooting. Can't figure out why someone with a history like his is still out walking the streets.

Here's his CCH.

02D04-0506-IF-008930
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/20/2005
Allen Superior Court 6
IF - Infraction
Decided
NO SAFETY BELT/PASSENGER


02D04-0704-MC-000687
Jackson, Traneilous L
04/09/2007
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal
Decided
P.C. REC STOLEN PROPERTY
POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA
CARRYING HANDGUN W/O LICENSE


02D04-0805-CM-003466
Jackson, Traneilous L
05/27/2008
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
CARRYING HANDGUN W/O LICENSE


02D04-0902-CM-000749
Jackson, Traneilous L
02/10/2009
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA
DRIVING LEFT CENTER

02D04-0906-IF-007113
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/03/2009
Allen Superior Court 4
IF - Infraction
Decided
OPERATE WHILE SUSP (INF)
EXCEED MAX LAWFUL SPEEDS


02D04-0906-IF-007416
Jackson, Traneilous L
06/08/2009
Allen Superior Court 6
IF - Infraction
Decided
NO OP. LICENSE IN POSS'N


02D05-1010-MC-002141
JACKSON, TRANEILOUS L
10/05/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-43-4-2(b)/FD: Receiving Stolen Property
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D05-1010-FC-000230
Jackson, Traneilous L.
10/08/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
FC - Class C Felony
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D05-1011-MC-002427
Jackson, Traneilous L
11/10/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-48-4-11/FD: Possession Marijuana/Hash Oil/Hashish - Amount Involved OR Prior Conviction
35-43-4-2(b)/FD: Receiving Stolen Property
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)
9-19-19-4(c)/IFC: Window Tint Violation by Driver


02D06-1011-FC-000267
Jackson, Traneilous L
11/16/2010
Allen Superior Court 5
FC - Class C Felony
Decided
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-48-4-11/FD: Possession Marijuana/Hash Oil/Hashish - Amount Involved OR Prior Conviction
9-24-19-2/MA: Driving While Suspended (Prior w/in 10 years)


02D04-1105-CM-003090
Jackson, Traneilous L
05/24/2011
Allen Superior Court 4
CM - Criminal Misdemeanor
Decided
35-42-2-1(a)(1)(A)/MA: Battery Resulting in Bodily Injury


***These charges are pending***
02D05-1209-MC-002429
JACKSON, TRANEILOUS L
09/10/2012
Allen Superior Court 5
MC - Miscellaneous Criminal (Citation)
Pending
35-42-2-1.5/FB: Aggravated Battery: knowingly or intentionally inflicts injury on a person
35-42-2-2(c)(3)(A)/FC: Crim Recklessness-Shot Firearm Into Inhab Dwelling/Other Gathering Place
35-47-2-1/FC: Carrying Handgun w/o License-Prior/Prior Felony w/in 15 Yrs/School Prop, School Bus
35-42-2-1(a)(3)/FC: Battery Committed by Means of a Deadly Weapon or Resulting in SBI


With people like this walking around is EXACTLY why you SHOULD be carrying.

You got it. Guys like this is why I carry a sidearm. Sometimes two...

 

[Glock19]

I know plenty of people I think are better off carrying than some cops....

 

[ditto]

How do you guys feel about citizens being required to take a gun safety/gun use training course before being able to carry or possibly own? Or do you feel that impedes your rights too much? I'm not saying I advocate it - but what do you think?

Personally speaking I wouldn't even feel comfortable owning a gun without first being trained. I take this endeavor very seriously and feel that as a responsible gun owner I should be adequately trained. And frankly I would have that expectation of others.

Going next week for my class!

 

[Rey B]

Voluntary training? All for it. Mandatory training? Nope not even nyet nein! The Second Amendment says nothing about shall not be infringed after a training course or two.

 

[ditto]

Voluntary training? All for it. Mandatory training? Nope not even nyet nein! The Second Amendment says nothing about shall not be infringed after a training course or two.

Yeah I totally get that. But do you really feel good knowing the anthill shooting guy is walking around out there with a gun? Ok I'm kidding a little. I guess it's kind of like drivers. They may have a license but that doesn't mean they aren't a complete idiot.

Present company excluded of course <3

 

[EvilBlackGun]

Where's the state, Idaho, Iowa, that has the "1-size fits all" ...

... license, and where do I sign up for it??

 

[thebishopp]

I was sitting in class today and we started discussing the shooting up in Ft. Wayne over the weekend. A LEO in the class then said "If you aren't a cop, you shouldn't carry." He couldn't give me a good reason as to why we shouldn't carry. INGO I come to you to ask, why not?

Remember his name and department because you will probably be reading about him in the next few years or so.

Maybe even on this forum