Why Donald Trump is Bad for the Republican Party

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[MisterChester]

Coal is a PLENTIFUL (and therefore inexpensive) fuel for electricity; ergo it is a good (or at least "adequate") source. It's certainly more reliable than current solar or wind technology.

They are equally reliable, solar/wind just costs more. But eventually we will get to a point where it's cheaper to produce solar panels than to mine coal. And we won't run out of sunlight for billions of years so that's a plus.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

They are equally reliable, solar/wind just costs more. But eventually we will get to a point where it's cheaper to produce solar panels than to mine coal. And we won't run out of sunlight for billions of years so that's a plus.

Except for night time and when the wind doesn't blow...yeah other than that, perfectly reliable. Well, except for the energy densities--that is the number of acres of solar panels and the number of windmills it takes to equate to a ton of coal.

 

[Dead Duck]

24 hour sun and no atmosphere.
We could install the solar panels on satellites and WiFi the electricity back to earth.













wait.....

 

[rhino]

Except for night time and when the wind doesn't blow...yeah other than that, perfectly reliable. Well, except for the energy densities--that is the number of acres of solar panels and the number of windmills it takes to equate to a ton of coal.

Did someone actually claim that wind turbines are a reliable source of electricity? Seriously?

24 hour sun and no atmosphere.
We could install the solar panels on satellites and WiFi the electricity back to earth.


wait.....

Hey, if Nicola Tesla were alive today . . . and not insane . . . he would have made that happen already.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Did someone actually claim that wind turbines are a reliable source of electricity? Seriously?

You be the judge:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...trump-bad-republican-party-7.html#post6084016

 

[MisterChester]

Except for night time and when the wind doesn't blow...yeah other than that, perfectly reliable. Well, except for the energy densities--that is the number of acres of solar panels and the number of windmills it takes to equate to a ton of coal.

You do know that energy collected from solar panels can be stored, right? What do you think happens to the energy not being used? Depending on what kind of set up someone has they can go for days without sunlight from stored energy.

Seems like the whole argument against solar is the sun goes away each day and it doesn't tell us where it's going.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

You do know that energy collected from solar panels can be stored, right? What do you think happens to the energy not being used? Depending on what kind of set up someone has they can go for days without sunlight from stored energy.

Seems like the whole argument against solar is the sun goes away each day and it doesn't tell us where it's going.

Keep on dreaming. Someday somebody will come up with batteries that power an averaged sized house, with all the creature comforts we've come to expect, over night. Somebody will be able to build solar panels and batteries with enough capacity and at a cost point where the average income family can realistically make a purchase decision between solar or wind and conventionally generated electricity. Someday. But it's not today. And making cheap electricity expensive so that expensive electricity seems cheap is disgusting and can only be accomplished by government interference and distortion of markets.

 

[traderdan]

Keep on dreaming. Someday somebody will come up with batteries that power an averaged sized house, with all the creature comforts we've come to expect, over night. Somebody will be able to build solar panels and batteries with enough capacity and at a cost point where the average income family can realistically make a purchase decision between solar or wind and conventionally generated electricity. Someday. But it's not today. And making cheap electricity expensive so that expensive electricity seems cheap is disgusting and can only be accomplished by government interference and distortion of markets.

The production of the batteries will probable be more harmful to the environment than just burning coal....

 

[jamil]

Keep on dreaming. Someday somebody will come up with batteries that power an averaged sized house, with all the creature comforts we've come to expect, over night. Somebody will be able to build solar panels and batteries with enough capacity and at a cost point where the average income family can realistically make a purchase decision between solar or wind and conventionally generated electricity. Someday. But it's not today. And making cheap electricity expensive so that expensive electricity seems cheap is disgusting and can only be accomplished by government interference and distortion of markets.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GodFearinGunTotin again."

The production of the batteries will probable be more harmful to the environment than just burning coal....

Kinda puts a fly in the "all the above" ointment, doesn't it? But hey, it makes people feel "greener", if not poorer.

 

[rhino]

The production of the batteries will probable be more harmful to the environment than just burning coal....

Don't confuse the issues with facts and logic. All of those self-righteous Prius drivers really don't need to know about what it takes to make the batteries for their car, or what happens to the old batteries after they replace them. If they did, it might detract from their smug sense of environmental superiority.

 

[jamil]

You do know that energy collected from solar panels can be stored, right? What do you think happens to the energy not being used? Depending on what kind of set up someone has they can go for days without sunlight from stored energy.

Seems like the whole argument against solar is the sun goes away each day and it doesn't tell us where it's going.

How about all of you who want to replace fossil fuel energy with "green" energy pay the difference until there isn't one.

 

[rhino]

Replacing what works with something that doesn't is kind of like canceling someone's prescription for a medication that is sustaining their life now because someday there might be a better drug with fewer side effects.

 

[jamil]

Replacing what works with something that doesn't is kind of like canceling someone's prescription for a medication that is sustaining their life now because someday there might be a better drug with fewer side effects.

Well, you have to pay for the research on the newer better drug somehow.

 

[rhino]

Well, you have to pay for the research on the newer better drug somehow.

Weel, sure! Let's make everyone pay for it before it's on the market, even if they will never use it.

And in the meantime, the people who needed the existing drug can suffer and die without it.

But . . . good intentions (based on the worldview of the socialist-statists.

 

[spec4]

These posts above are about Trump??

 

[Thor]

The production of the batteries will probable be more harmful to the environment than just burning coal....

Yes they will, and yes there is no way to store that energy today. Wind and solar are great steaming piles of wasted money. Also, the people who like them don't mind at all the eminent domain issues with grabbing land so they can build the transmissions lines across every sizeable piece of land out there...because the things need to be distributed across about everywhere to get enough generation.

But it's green, so do it for the future. Sort of like, save the wilderness for the future, as if some hypothetical future citizen will get the right to use the land they will deny you today.

To get on topic...Trump is all about seizing land for his own profit and using the tools of government to get it.

 

[jamil]

These posts above are about Trump??

Some how. yes.

 

[MisterChester]

How about all of you who want to replace fossil fuel energy with "green" energy pay the difference until there isn't one.

I never said I wanted to replace it. Just because it costs so much now doesn't mean it won't be viable in the future.

 

[MisterChester]

Keep on dreaming. Someday somebody will come up with batteries that power an averaged sized house, with all the creature comforts we've come to expect, over night. Somebody will be able to build solar panels and batteries with enough capacity and at a cost point where the average income family can realistically make a purchase decision between solar or wind and conventionally generated electricity. Someday. But it's not today. And making cheap electricity expensive so that expensive electricity seems cheap is disgusting and can only be accomplished by government interference and distortion of markets.

When it does become viable for most people, if anything the government is going to try to halt the market with over-regulation because that's what big energy companies will pay them to do so. Best to leave the market alone, and if coal/oil goes the way of the dodo then it's because that's what the energy market wants, not the government nor big business.