And now you're opposed to defending our Nuclear Power plants with whatever means are at our disposal???
keep misrepresenting facts...the brady bunch would be proud
exaggeration much?
Statistically speaking, how often are officers shot at during routine traffic stops and warrant services? I wonder if that data has ever been compiled? Probably not, but I thik it'd make an interesting study.
The police should not have, armored cars, infantry fighting vehicles, armored fighting vehicles, inter alia. If the police do have an armored car, infantry fighting vehicle, armored fighting vehicle, there better be a darn good reason for it that "might" or chicken raids.
It's the same argument the Brady campaign uses, plain and simple. There isn't much else I can say about this topic
No exaggeration at all. I can show you a video right now of an officer killed with an AK47 on a traffic stop. I didn't say that it happens frequently. Kirk said he wouldn't be doing things that would put him in that situation, and my point is that a traffic stop could put you in that situation.
Infantry Fighting Vehicle: A heavily armed, armored combat vehicle, having tracks or wheels and often having amphibious capability, used to transport infantry into battle and support them there.
The police should not have, armored cars, infantry fighting vehicles, armored fighting vehicles, inter alia. If the police do have an armored car, infantry fighting vehicle, armored fighting vehicle, there better be a darn good reason for it that "might" or chicken raids.
I dono, I just lost a friend in Jan making a traffic stop. Shot in the head.exaggeration much?
Statistically speaking, how often are officers shot at during routine traffic stops and warrant services? I wonder if that data has ever been compiled? Probably not, but I thik it'd make an interesting study.
This is my issue. We have a SWAT team, why not use it to serve a warrant? We can get a no-knock warrant, let's use them for more things. We have ninja facemasks, let's put them on.
We have an armored vehicle, let's use it.
I've seen it. The lunatic with his son that leans out the window and blows away the chief of police's son. That scumbag got everything that was coming to him. But that's one example. I know it happens. What I'm saying is that it's a statistical improbability.
How many warrant services have you done? How many times have you been shot at whilst performing them? How many has your department done? How many of the officers doing them have been shot at.
as long as you stop refering to it as a IFV, because its not an offensive vehicle
Damn, you took my line about "armoring" my Crown Vic...I was gonna say that.as long as you stop refering to it as a IFV, because its not an offensive vehicle
Would it bother you if I told you they line some of the doors of crown vic's with kevlar?
I followed that a little bit an have a little more info. They had both made balistic vests that they had sewed together. The police were helpless against the weapons that didn't even slow down when they went through the LAPDs vests. Several officers in behind the bank had to find different cover when the robbers weapons went through the concrete blocks the officers were behind. Officers finally had to go to a local gun store and get AR's. The gunshop owner helped out.Oh good lord. Read it nice and S L O W ...IF YOU WERE ME, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE? I guess you missed the part where the police commandeered an armored vehicle and rescued those that were bleeding to death (police and non-police alike) while taking fire. BTW, one shot himself in the head and the other died while waiting for an ambulance. He bled out.
I believe the family of one of the robbers sued the LAPD for withholding medical attention. It seems the ambulance personnel would not come in because of the fear of more bad guys and he bled to death
I have lights and sirens, I don't use them to get home quicker. I have pepper spray, I don't use it to season my french fries. I have an expandable baton, I don't use it to knock on doors. I have a mountable light for my Glock, I don't use it to check people's eyes. What exactly is your point?
What is the obsession with chickens? I must have missed the joke (although I cannot fathom it being so funny that it is still being referred to). So ANY vehicle cabable of breaking a wall is offensive...got it. A good truck with a tube bumper can pull that off.So what is breaking through a wall like the bocage of Northern France? Defensive? The chickens were coming right for us!
It's an infantry fighting vehicle regardless of how it is used.
Sadly, it is now illegal for the gun shops to posses the very rifles that LAPD came in and borrowed. Sad irony...screwed up laws.I followed that a little bit an have a little more info. They had both made balistic vests that they had sewed together. The police were helpless against the weapons that didn't even slow down when they went through the LAPDs vests. Several officers in behind the bank had to find different cover when the robbers weapons went through the concrete blocks the officers were behind. Officers finally had to go to a local gun store and get AR's. The gunshop owner helped out.
Note: I believe the family of one of the robbers sued the LAPD for withholding medical attention. It seems the ambulance personnel would not come in because of the fear of more bad guys and he bled to death.
What is the obsession with chickens? I must have missed the joke (although I cannot fathom it being so funny that it is still being referred to). So ANY vehicle cabable of breaking a wall is offensive...got it. A good truck with a tube bumper can pull that off.
I dono, I just lost a friend in Jan making a traffic stop. Shot in the head.
Officer David Spencer Moore, Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, Indiana
I have another friend that was shot square in the vest on a traffic stop...vest saved his life. Other friend was shot in the head and lost an eye, he is still on the department, great detective, great SWAT member, and a hell of a soccer player. Those are just 3 of my friends/co-workers in this city alone. It happens.