why do people vote democratic?

[redneckmedic]

:wtf: Okay, someone needs to step off their religious pedestal. For someone who has thin skin when it comes to opposing religious viewpoints, you sure don't have a problem dishing it out. And I thought I was arrogant....sheesh

Not sure if the purple text would have conveyed my message or not to folks like you. (And by that I mean you all who scan articles looking for any word that has to do with religion so you can jump all over the OP just to show an opposition, own it or not, thats my perseption)

So how about this:
Part 1 = J-O-K-E
Part 2 = My Opinion, and here is why:

Nobody has a problem comparing the democratic party to Coms, Socialist, Marxist, whatever. They call Barrack Hitler, and say the party is destroying the country. They call themselves the party of progression that supports homosexuality, a-Christianity, and pro (which ever religion is popular this week). Progressives fight desperately to remove Christ out of Holiday Day , and prayer out of schools, but reschedule time for muslim worship.

Yes, I am confused with Christians voting Democrat.

And standing up for something you believe in with your entire heart isn't being thin skinned. But I don't expect you to sympathize.

/threadjack

 

[Captain Bligh]

I am a Christian, gun-toting liberal who votes Democratic more often than not. It's not so easy to pigeon-hole people. Conservatives don't have exclusive claims on Christianity. So there.

 

[JBusch8899]

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[irishfan]

Not sure if the purple text would have conveyed my message or not to folks like you. (And by that I mean you all who scan articles looking for any word that has to do with religion so you can jump all over the OP just to show an opposition, own it or not, thats my perseption)

So how about this:
Part 1 = J-O-K-E
Part 2 = My Opinion, and here is why:

Nobody has a problem comparing the democratic party to Coms, Socialist, Marxist, whatever. They call Barrack Hitler, and say the party is destroying the country. They call themselves the party of progression that supports homosexuality, a-Christianity, and pro (which ever religion is popular this week). Progressives fight desperately to remove Christ out of Holiday Day , and prayer out of schools, but reschedule time for muslim worship.

Yes, I am confused with Christians voting Democrat.

And standing up for something you believe in with your entire heart isn't being thin skinned. But I don't expect you to sympathize.

/threadjack

Thats why there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. I am a christian and I vote for the person I think is better and not the party they represent. I will admit there has been slim picking when it comes to candidates from either party lately but there are a few good choices. However, I do not see how anyone can bad mouth a person being christian or not for voting a certain political party. A lot of Republicans are not pro-life, pro-church, or pro-christian people and that is just something you have to deal with when voting Republican apparently. In the same area of discussion, many in the Democrat party are not pro-life or religion but some are. I vote for the person and not their party regardless of what "propoganda" a party puts out trying to gain support for theirself.

 

[Kagnew]

Massive infestations of tape worms.

 

[ChrisK]

Vote for the person, not the party. There are to many people that just vote the party line. That is one thing that has gotten this this country in the position it is in now. Just vote your moral beliefs and for the person that will follow the United States Constitution to the letter.

 

[redneckmedic]

Don't forget the bottom line in this thread fellas.... The OP is why do people vote democrat? This thread was meant to stir evil discussion

 

[groovatron]

Not sure if the purple text would have conveyed my message or not to folks like you. (And by that I mean you all who scan articles looking for any word that has to do with religion so you can jump all over the OP just to show an opposition, own it or not, thats my perseption)

When do I scan articles looking for any word that has to do with religion? Now you are just making stuff up and that's just sad.
I didn't jump all over the OP, I jumped on you. And I did so because of your comments. Your preception is jaded. Relax, everyone is not out to get you.

So how about this:
Part 1 = J-O-K-E
Part 2 = My Opinion, and here is why:

Nobody has a problem comparing the democratic party to Coms, Socialist, Marxist, whatever.

Really? Get out of your bubble. Lots of people have a problem with these comparisons....including myself.

They call Barrack Hitler, and say the party is destroying the country. They call themselves the party of progression that supports homosexuality, a-Christianity, and pro (which ever religion is popular this week). Progressives fight desperately to remove Christ out of Holiday Day , and prayer out of schools, but reschedule time for muslim worship.

I'm not quite sure exactly what you are saying here. Who exactly is "they?" .......I'm sick of all this whinning about taking prayer out of schools and instituting muslim worship. WTF are you talking about. When and where does this actually happen? It's the vibe that you give off in this paragraph that screams paranoia and bigotry.

Medic, it has nothing to do with religion to me. It has to do with your elitest attitude. Though I may not be religious myself, there are many people in my life whom I love with all my heart that happen to be extremely religious. But they are also humble.

Yes, I am confused with Christians voting Democrat.

And standing up for something you believe in with your entire heart isn't being thin skinned. But I don't expect you to sympathize.

/threadjack

The thin skinned shot was directed at your past of defensiveness when it comes to an opposing view point that does not coincide with your religious agenda. My comments were not a negative shot towards religion or your personal beliefs. They had nothing to do with religion. Religion just happens to be the thing that you use to feel better than everyone else. And you are quite vocal about it indeed.

 

[redneckmedic]

I answered the OP's question... you don't like that... OK. Like you said...

it has nothing to do with religion to me.

thats cool.

Just because a man uses religion to justify his answers doesn't make him an "elitest",

Nothing I said int he post before I made up, its all reoccurring fact. I have no problem showing you where, perhaps in a different thread or PM as this is now becoming threadjacked. Yes I am vocal about my religious beliefs, but less than many other opinons (OC, best hand gun, political views, ext) on this site, it's just reconized by you, b/c you disagree with it so. The difference between you and me, I don't attack people for their views, I just disagree. I am done here, but for point of reference, I would like you to quote one place where I was obviously offend. Just for S&Gs. Perhaps in a PM.

/threadjack

 

[groovatron]

I answered the OP's question... you don't like that... OK. Like you said...

thats cool.

Just because a man uses religion to justify his answers doesn't make him an "elitest",

Nothing I said int he post before I made up, its all reoccurring fact. I have no problem showing you where, perhaps in a different thread or PM as this is now becoming threadjacked. Okay, please show me. Yes I am vocal about my religious beliefs, but less than many other opinons (OC, best hand gun, political views, ext) on this site, it's just reconized by you, b/c you disagree with it so. The difference between you and me, I don't attack people for their views, I just disagree. When did I attack anyone for their view. Please back some of these accusations up. I am done here, but for point of reference, I would like you to quote one place where I was obviously offend. Just for S&Gs. Perhaps in a PM.

/threadjack

I'm confused. You never answered the OP's question. Instead, you asked a different question to the tune of religion. Then you went on to bash the Catholic church. So, you started with a thread jack. I just commented on the way you came across.

 

[irishfan]

Redneckmedic, you straight out bashed by saying "how could someone who votes Democrat call themselves christian?" and that is elitist and hypocritical as you can get. I have my religious beliefs and do vote for Democrats as well as Republicans because that person is who I see as best in that race.

Back on topic

People vote Democratic because they feel the Democrat candidate is the one that best aligns with their position or beiliefs. Also, just like many Republicans you will see Democrats vote straight party on the Democrat side.

 

[Bill of Rights]

I can understand his question. Perhaps this thread was the wrong place for it, but IIUC, what he's saying is that as a Christian, he cannot see someone agreeing with, let alone practicing or participating in abortion (for one example) as it would violate religious tenets. I used the example of abortion because it is a topic the religiously observant argue against and which the Democratic Party seems to argue for. I could have as easily used homosexuality, a topic about which those two groups argue extensively. There are others, but those two are first to come to mind.

Personally, I'm neutral on this because I am neither a Democrat nor a Christian. I suppose it's possible to be both, but I can understand how and where they conflict. I disagree that RNM was being hypocritical or elitist; it seemed to me he was asking a question that seemed relevant to him. Again, perhaps in the wrong thread.

Might I suggest that both sides are very accustomed to feeling attacked, whether they are or not, and perhaps that's coloring perceptions here.

I suggest that it might be better, when you see something from which you take offense, you write your answer, but save it on your hard drive rather than post it. Give it until tomorrow if it is at all inflammatory. Alternatively, write to the other member via PM and ASK them to clarify or to discuss, and then DO it.. Discuss, that is. Not shout each other down, not accuse, not bring ad hominem attacks into it... Focus on issues, not people. Focus on THIS post, not the one of theirs you remember from six months ago because you read it and took offense. Of note: My use here of "you", "them", "their", etc., are not specific to any INGOer, but generally addressed to everyone.

In sum: This post contains some personal opinion and some mod suggestion. I trust that most if not all of you can tell the difference between the two.

I really don't want to have to lock more threads.

Thanks for your help, all.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[groovatron]

I can understand his question. Perhaps this thread was the wrong place for it, but IIUC, what he's saying is that as a Christian, he cannot see someone agreeing with, let alone practicing or participating in abortion (for one example) as it would violate religious tenets. I used the example of abortion because it is a topic the religiously observant argue against and which the Democratic Party seems to argue for. I could have as easily used homosexuality, a topic about which those two groups argue extensively. There are others, but those two are first to come to mind.

Personally, I'm neutral on this because I am neither a Democrat nor a Christian. I suppose it's possible to be both, but I can understand how and where they conflict. I disagree that RNM was being hypocritical or elitist; it seemed to me he was asking a question that seemed relevant to him. Again, perhaps in the wrong thread.


Blessings,
Bill

There are plenty of republicans that are pro choice. There are also homosexuals that consider themselves right wing by principle. Not only do I see how Medic's comments could be taken as offensive to Christian democrats, but also to non-Christian republicans. I took his comments in two ways. First, he believes that a true Christian has to vote to the right. With the same statement, he is saying that the right is represented by true Christianity. As a non-Christian that leans to the right, I view this as elitest. I would never throw my blanket of spiritual beliefs over a political party that represents many other beliefs. This is one of the reasons there is so much disconnect within traditional political partys.

I understand your bias in this situation, but I feel I reacted appropriately to his comments. Comments like his in this situation do not fit into what I wholeheartedly believe.....and in turn, I expressed my passionate opinion.
It had nothing to do with bashing and all to do with observation.

 

[Manan]

Why do people vote Democratic?

Well, do you know what a country that is 100% conservative looks like? It's called Iran.

Iran is NOT an "American Conservative" republic, It is an Islamic theocracy. At least be thoughtful and somewhat intelligent in your comparisons and arguments.

 

[T-rav]

Not always a religious thing either some people vote for a certain party because like anything thats just how they were raised. You tend to see SOME people that grew up in very strong pro-union households vote democrat because thats who the union supports.

 

[SKSnut]

they don't know any better?

 

[Captain Bligh]

Not always a religious thing either some people vote for a certain party because like anything thats just how they were raised. ..

Absolutely true. But some other people make an informed choice based upon what they believe regardless of how they grew up.

I'm a religious conservative (although I prefer the term traditionalist) who grew up in a Republican household only to become a political liberal. Now how did THAT happen?

 

[Phil502]

Everytime somebody says that Republicans are pro-whatever more than Democrats and that statement is opposed with an example then it is followed by "well other than him." A lot of top level Republicans would love to get rid of your guns just like they have voted to take away your privacy(just like Dems) and will sell whatever they have to when it comes election time. Lets just agree to disagree except my position that most of them regarless of affiliation are a lare lot of liars and thieves. That position I can't ease up on.

Well I guess I could have left Lugar out but the point that he is generally opposed here on INGO.

Can you name these high ranking Republicans, I want to make sure I don't vote for them.

I agree with you, they are lairs and thieves, if they were not we would not be in this mess.

 

[Fletch]

Christianity and socialism are often linked using Acts 2:42-47, among others. It's a compelling argument, but one which can be refuted.

Edited because I mistyped the reference. And to add a hyperlink.

 

[IBTL]

Fletch I know you aren't saying you personally believe that passage to be true, but I fail to recognize that socialist part of it. That passage refers to David's prophecy announcing Jesus. Could you be referring to Acts 2:42-47? I believe the Church of Scientologists interpret that passage for similar reasons that socialists do.

IBTL