Why didn't the 'Element of Surprise' help Zimmerman?

[GBuck]

Cops get into WAY less fights since people know they are armed. Comparing police who get paid to enforce laws and take criminals into custody instead of just shooting them opens them up to astronomically greater risk of an altercation.

Apples to oranges which is why I ignored it the first time... But you are a squeeky wheel aren't you?

But by the CC "bashers" argument, they should never get into fights, the gun is the ultimate deterrent right?

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I've never once used EoS to bash on OCers, as I OC about 20% of the time I carry. I just think people ASSUME that people are bashing just because they don't agree.

My point is no one tries to use EoS as a point once an altercation has begun. Your statement that you cannot "surprise" someone once an altercation has begun is my point.

My other point is that in this case CC gave him the option of when and where to deploy his gun. He successfully defended himself. It's just a matter of mindset.

No! I know all that and I wasn't directing it toward you I was just trying to answer your question. I think we are on the same page at least 75% of the way.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

But by the CC "bashers" argument, they should never get into fights, the gun is the ultimate deterrent right?

I don't know any "CC bashers" but I doubt any OCers on this board have been in a fight while they were OCing. I know I haven't.

 

[GBuck]

I don't know any "CC bashers" but I doubt any OCers on this board have been in a fight while they were OCing. I know I haven't.

I mean, I haven't been in a fight while CCing either..

There are plenty of CC bashers, the most recent one called those CCing "disgusting" and "pathetic".