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  • vulindlela

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    So you believe other nations will buy the Meye Ryyyeeettts nonsense and approve your unvaccinated visa? Not happening.
    Until now, they have.
    Been to over 50 countries and not once have I been asked for any vaccine information.
    I am aware that there some countries, especially in Africa that do require a vaccine for yellow fever.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Until now, they have.
    Been to over 50 countries and not once have I been asked for any vaccine information.
    I am aware that there some countries, especially in Africa that do require a vaccine for yellow fever.

    You have been to 50 countries this past year? No, you have not.

    You need proof of Covid-19 vaccine to travel. Please no more teeth-talking nonsense.

     

    NKBJ

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    This push for marking people has been in the works a long time.
    First they turned the SS number into an identifier.
    Remember what happened when the national ID was tried when Reagan was president? One of his staff popped off with "Why don't we just tattoo everybody's arm?" and the subject wasn't brought up again.
    Later during the Clinton presidency they tried to trot out a new ID scheme based upon the smart card.
    Looks like this time they've got it done.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    I sure hope you don't get some kind of awful disease as a side effect from the vaccine come a few years down the road. Ask GI about the crap they pumped into them in Desert Storm. Many still have major problems and many had children that had problems. Sure the DoJ or the VA won't say it was from them experimental vaccines they gave. Where else could it have came from? It effected to many of us to just be a fluke.
    No, just stop. We are not spreading this brain-worm filth of conspiracy and snake oil of Covid-19 being harmless but the vaccine is deadly.

    Let's learn what a mRNA vaccine is and how it is distinct from experimental anthrax vaccine from 30 years ago. Let's study and learn and stop rationalizing our anxieties with mindless conspiracies.
     

    DadSmith

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    No, just stop. We are not spreading this brain-worm filth of conspiracy and snake oil of Covid-19 being harmless but the vaccine is deadly.

    Let's learn what a mRNA vaccine is and how it is distinct from experimental anthrax vaccine from 30 years ago. Let's study and learn and stop rationalizing our anxieties with mindless conspiracies.
    Let me know how you feel in a few years.
    I'm happy I'm not the test subject this round.
    Mindless? I guess you are not familiar with Gulf War syndrome and whatever else they call it. Oh and it isn't a conspiracy it's fact.
     
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    Kirk Freeman

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    Let me know how you feel in a few years.
    I'm happy I'm not the test subject this round.
    Mindless? I guess you are not familiar with Gulf War syndrome and whatever else they call it. Oh and it isn't a conspiracy it's fact.
    The experimental anthrax vaccine given out by DoD and MoD three decades ago was NOT an mRNA.

    We don't need this kind of confusion when we stand on the brink of breaking the pandemic. We don't need INGO to be part of it.
     

    NKBJ

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    Everybody knows the theory of how mRNA vaccines are supposed to work. The interseine is flooded with the PR campaign. And, there are a lot of dissenting voices in the various medical fields questioning different aspects of this grand plan, including whether the small bits of synthesized mRNA are going to behave as intended.
    But none of this tells us how things are going to pan out a year from now. So if you have the need to get a vaccine and justify it in your own mind, I reckon you oughta go for it. Whether you can later justify being a party to this evil plan being carried out, well, it's your mirror that you're gonna have to look in, not mine.
     

    NKBJ

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    About the Gulf War vaccine casualties, the son of a family friend was devastated by the shots. It didn't get him for years, not until after the army was through with him but yeah, crippled him up pretty bad.
     

    jamil

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    The experimental anthrax vaccine given out by DoD and MoD three decades ago was NOT an mRNA.

    We don't need this kind of confusion when we stand on the brink of breaking the pandemic. We don't need INGO to be part of it.
    So INGO is a monolith to be derided? Are you not part of INGO?

    There's an argument back and forth between members on this topic. Obviously not all of INGO agrees on this. How is INGO part if "it"?
     

    JettaKnight

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    Yep. If you get the virus in, you can't expel it. You just breathe it in all day....
    Wait a second - I was told right here on INGO the virus passes right through the mask, like a mosquito through a chain link fence.

    Is that not the case, do masks actually stop the virus? :dunno:
     

    JettaKnight

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    Christians get excluded (attacked and marginalized) because politically they can present a cohesive block that promotes stability as well as resisting evil.
    You have to get them involved in left versus right to derail them from good versus evil. That's what evil people do, derail the opposition to evil because otherwise there can be no clear path forward for doing evil.
    Christians get excluded because they present a morality that can't be changed on societal whims.

    I know plenty of atheist that want stability and goodness, just they don't want absolutism or being told to bend a knee to a deity.
     

    JettaKnight

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    Until now, they have.
    Been to over 50 countries and not once have I been asked for any vaccine information.
    I am aware that there some countries, especially in Africa that do require a vaccine for yellow fever.
    Were you in uniform for those trips? Did your travels require a visa?

    IIRC, I needed to show vax info to go college.
     

    Ingomike

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    I'm talking about applying your logic consistently. You're essentially claiming that by voting for Biden they WANTED everything that encompasses Biden. As if they saw Biden as all pros and no cons. But you don't get that in candidates. There's always some con that makes the candidate imperfect. Except if you might be so biased that you're incapable of seeing any faults. If you saw zero faults with Trump, it likely means you overlooked those faults because of the pros. And we can work with that. Does voting for Trump mean you agree with men going out and ****ing porn stars while their wife is pregnant? The other side would say you do, because they're applying the same logic to you.

    Voting for an imperfect candidate does not mean that you WANT those imperfections. It may mean that you overlooked them because of whatever pros there are, or because you think the imperfections in the other candidate are much worse. When I voted for Trump I was not voting FOR those characteristics, I didn't WANT them.

    I'm disagreeing with the statement that they WANTED gun control. That's just an "othering" mechanism. It's more likely that they had serious TDS for Trump and foolishly believe/believed that Biden was harmless. If you go back and look at their own justifications, that's pretty much what was said. "Trump is too poopy to be muh prez, Biden won't be able to get gun control passed."

    You used to be better at sticking to facts. Comparing holding voters accountable for for a candidates stated positions vs saying they approve of a candidates sins is something else.
     

    DadSmith

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    Wait a second - I was told right here on INGO the virus passes right through the mask, like a mosquito through a chain link fence.

    Is that not the case, do masks actually stop the virus? :dunno:
    It does if you come into direct contact with it. I've talked to my neurologist about it already. He said cloth or surgical mask won't stop it because it's to small. N95 mask properly worn with proper hygiene will give you the best chance if you are directly exposed to it.
     

    Ingomike

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    Wait a second - I was told right here on INGO the virus passes right through the mask, like a mosquito through a chain link fence.

    Is that not the case, do masks actually stop the virus? :dunno:
    A chain link fence will not stop a can of paint from going through it but some paint will cling to it and that clinging paint can sure ruin your jeans...

    The longer you try to play smartest man in the room the the worse you look...
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    So INGO is a monolith to be derided? Are you not part of INGO?

    There's an argument back and forth between members on this topic. Obviously not all of INGO agrees on this. How is INGO part if "it"?
    Am I saying that it is wrong to abandon science for a political position as is being done in Congress.

    We don't any part of the brain worms that people like this are serving up:

     
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