I don’t know, that just doesn’t go deep enough for me. The German society under Hitler cooperatively killed millions. The Russian society under Stalin cooperatively killed millions. The Chinese society under Mao cooperatively killed millions. That’s not like inconvenience with a restrictive government, that’s dead. It’s not like you think, oh well that society determined their level of cooperation. Good for them. Let them be. There’s an underlying foundation that you know that’s wrong, that’s what I’m interested in. The cooperative society context just doesn’t work for me, and I make it a point to not use religious arguments when I’m speaking about government/political thing because who cares.
I think, absent of relevant cultural (social) indicators, you actually don't know that.
Is killing your neighbor wrong? Well...sometimes it is...but we are able to come up with all kinds of justifications for doing just that. Think about how the natives of this continent were treated by our forefathers...justified by the needs of our nascent country. Think about how the early Hebrews treated the Midians...justified because their god granted them the land.
Think about how we allow our government to treat people held in their custody today.
I think our sense of right and wrong is more cultural than instinctual. We are all born with a natural ability for empathy, but our willingness to apply it is largely - perhaps even totally- culturally dependent.
I think, absent of relevant cultural (social) indicators, you actually don't know that.
Is killing your neighbor wrong? Well...sometimes it is...but we are able to come up with all kinds of justifications for doing just that. Think about how the natives of this continent were treated by our forefathers...justified by the needs of our nascent country. Think about how the early Hebrews treated the Midians...justified because their god granted them the land.
Think about how we allow our government to treat people held in their custody today.
I think our sense of right and wrong is more cultural than instinctual. We are all born with a natural ability for empathy, but our willingness to apply it is largely - perhaps even totally- culturally dependent.
Would you say then that you’re unwilling to condemn those past genocidal regimes? Because who really knows what’s right or wrong?
You can't condemn biblical genocide can you? If God commanded it it must be moral?
I’d love to talk about that. Over here.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...gious-discussion-all-things-christianity.html
Trying to keep this discussion as political/non-religious as possible.
You can't condemn biblical genocide can you? If God commanded it it must be moral?
I think, absent of relevant cultural (social) indicators, you actually don't know that.
Is killing your neighbor wrong? Well...sometimes it is...but we are able to come up with all kinds of justifications for doing just that. Think about how the natives of this continent were treated by our forefathers...justified by the needs of our nascent country. Think about how the early Hebrews treated the Midians...justified because their god granted them the land.
Think about how we allow our government to treat people held in their custody today.
I think our sense of right and wrong is more cultural than instinctual. We are all born with a natural ability for empathy, but our willingness to apply it is largely - perhaps even totally- culturally dependent.
Ever wonder if genocide is how you correct the gene pool?
Ever wonder if genocide is how you correct the gene pool?
I, for one, am interested to hear more about this theory.
OK, I'm still not getting the connection to this topic. Maybe I'm just dense, so if you could explain it...Excerpt from, https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/hunting-in-judaism/ Jews and Guns Jewish law forbids hunting, and few Jews own firearms.
ETA: You need to read the whole article.
Hitler thought so.
Well, yes, he did but you have to wonder if he ever had an original thought even before chemically expanding his consciousness. Concerning my previous question about genocide being used to correct gene pools, it's old hat; done forever. I asked it in conversation to the idea of whether the genocide described in scripture was moral or not (not that we are the authorities on that particular subject). And yes, I have wondered along with many others.
Well, yes, he did but you have to wonder if he ever had an original thought even before chemically expanding his consciousness. Concerning my previous question about genocide being used to correct gene pools, it's old hat; done forever. I asked it in conversation to the idea of whether the genocide described in scripture was moral or not (not that we are the authorities on that particular subject). And yes, I have wondered along with many others.