im lucky. my inlaws and 2 sister inlaws know me and my wife carry. we all live on the farm, 2 houses and 2 converted barns. there are 12 kids total ages 15 to new born. one of my sister in law and her husband have permit and one gun, but they dont carry. 5 of the 7 adults work at local school so we cant carry at work, sucks.