theweakerbrother
Grandmaster
Chain mail was sooo yesterday! I only wear plate!
Wear both. The zombie guide recommends it for bites.
Chain mail was sooo yesterday! I only wear plate!
I get the point you guys are trying to make, but unless your wearing a shirt made of nano-material (which exists, bullet resistant shirts do exist), I'm just saying that without putting the law under a microscope armor wouldn't really be classified as clothing - in lay-mans terms. Having worked quite in depth with composite materials and most of the materials used in making armor, I can't imagine anyone using it as clothing. Not to mention, most ballistic material is useless without proper processing or a silly amount of layering. Anyone who considers DAPS, plates, or a vest "clothing" is going a bit too deep in my opinion.
Also, you'd be surprised, the design of armor can be just as important as the materials used!
wouldn't this mean that any safety equipment like shoulder pads, shin guards, safety glasses etc are "body armor" since they are worn by a person to provide protection from bodily injury?Sec. 13. (a) As used in this section, "body armor" means bullet
resistant metal or other material worn by a person to provide
protection from weapons or bodily injury.
Actually how else would you define body armor?
wouldn't this mean that any safety equipment like shoulder pads, shin guards, safety glasses etc are "body armor" since they are worn by a person to provide protection from bodily injury?
typically the design is used to lessen the transfer of energy at the POI. It isn't as important in making the material bullet proof.
Are you suggesting a flak jacket or helment are not clothing?
Hopefully its not "Clothing" but it most certainly is "clothing", anything that clothes someone is clothing.
The point you made was that it isn't the materials that are being banned, the point I was making is that it is. The law is specifically defining the material it is made out of, the intended operation of the garnment, and the situation it is used in.
A law as vague to say "body armor" without indicating the material would be a very slippery slope.
Your right partially on the design portion, typically that is what the design is for. But if the design is bad or incorrect, the ballistic material, while still somewhat ballistic, isn't a fraction as protective as it could be. In most cases the design makes a world of difference as to whether you can take that material and have it certified as armor. Basically I'm saying the design and processing are just as important as the material. Hell with the right design and processing you can make bullet resistant armor out of canvas.
and yes, I'm saying that a flak and kevlar are not clothing. AS FAR AS I"M (just me) CONCERNED. If I saw a guy walking down the street in a flak and kevlar and we'll say some IIIA drop legs, I would not call him dressed or clothed...in fact I'd call him a crazy person, but not clothed. Ballistic material is not armor, it's just material, if not designed and processed correctly, it's not armor.
True body armor had been manufactured and tested and classified as armor. I buy rolls of ballistic material regularly, then I turn that material into armor. I have never bought a roll of armor. See my point? I see what you mean though. I do see your point.
I see your point, and agree for the most part, but as far as the law is concerned it does not mention design.
I am advanced in the field of physics, and did very well on the MCATs and understand what would be required for ballistic material to be protective, but it is not what makes it illegal.
The law states it has to be bullet resistant and be worn to protect you from bodily injury. Done.
There is no other qualifier.
The material being METAL (not canvas), bullet resistant, and worn on the body. If it meets this and you are commiting any felony you have then broken another federal crime. EVEN IF it has pink flowers on it.
I guess I will retract my question.
ec. 13. (a) As used in this section, "body armor" means bullet
resistant metal or other material worn by a person to provide
protection from weapons or bodily injury.
In that case any material worn with the intent to provide protection from weapons would be illegal. Whether it be metal or canvas...
So yes, any safety equipment or actual armor would qualify.
Sooooooo. What if I wear body armor everyday cause I like it's slimming effects. And say one day, I go all George Zimmerman and make a questionable decision regarding my personal defense...
If you are found to have committed a felony, you may be found to have committed a second felony. If your "personal defense" was not a felony, then wearing body armor wasn't one either.
This isn't hard.
First, thank you for your service.So far, the law has beaten any challenges brought before it and is a protection for law enforcement and one more tool to use in conviction.
If you're a felon, you're not allowed to wear a motorcycle helmet, or wear a seatbelt.SOURCE: Indiana Code 35-47-5
IC 35-47-5-13
Unlawful use of body armor
Sec. 13. (a) As used in this section, "body armor" means bullet
resistant metal or other material worn by a person to provide
protection from weapons or bodily injury.
(b) A person who knowingly or intentionally uses body armor
while committing a felony commits unlawful use of body armor, a
Class D felony.
As added by P.L.227-1996, SEC.1.