I wasn't talking about the training value, I was talking about the often mentioned false dichotomy of having a laser and being poorly trained vs only using irons and being well trained. Statements like "they are a crutch...your lack of training will show when it fails..." type posts. You can be both well trained and use lasers, or you can be poorly trained and not have lasers.
The below quote is what I'm talking about. Too often people come out with a laser grip on their pistol only to have it slow them down because they have to look OVER the gun to see it.
Lasers don't even matter with proper training. They don't illuminate like a flashlight. They are slower to acquire than a good front sight post. They can fail when you need them.
Good is my vote. I like the deterrent use of the laser, that red/green dot on the body is bad on the psyche. Sighting in the laser is must also.