What are people likely to do with their AR pistols after Augusts rule change?

[Hawkeye]

A good question.

I also have a question. Did he Shepardize them?

He said "Shepardize"! HAHAHAHA! If we didn't know he was a lawyer before, we do now!

 

[BigRed]

The FBI always was.

Absolutely correct.....The xxxxshow needs to be abolished.

 

[JAL]

He said "Shepardize"! HAHAHAHA! If we didn't know he was a lawyer before, we do now!

I already knew from his other postings . . . but recognized the jargon. Yup, conclusive. Etymology is from using Shepard's Citations which catalogs when and where a case is used to argue precedence.

John

 

[amjindiana]

I assume there will be numerous legal challenges before it goes into effect; hopefully by our AG. In the meantime what's supposed to happen with all the soon-to-be illegal firearms out there? A government buyback? Please educate me.

 

[DDadams]

I assume there will be numerous legal challenges before it goes into effect; hopefully by our AG. In the meantime what's supposed to happen with all the soon-to-be illegal firearms out there? A government buyback? Please educate me.

I don't know.

But with all the pressure on FFLs and BS revocations for ANY clerical error at all being in full swing now I would advise not dropping off an AR pistol for any work at a gunsmith until its sorted out after it goes in effect. They're going to rely on FFLs enforcing this rule after all.

 

[HoughMade]

He said "Shepardize"! HAHAHAHA! If we didn't know he was a lawyer before, we do now!

What I was getting at is that listing a bunch of REALLY old cases tells us nothing. We need context and whether they are still good law.

Example- "You can't make that law because of the 49 year old case Roe v. Wade..."

Response: "Well, um....this is awkward"

 

[DadSmith]

ATF amnesty for braced pistols? LINK BELOW.

LINK: https://omb.report/icr/202208-1140-007/doc/124454800The ATF seems to have inadvertently announced that they plan to conduct an amnesty for braced pisto...

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So now it looks like it maybe free to turn your pistol into a SBR when they bring out the ruling.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Will there be a lawsuit to stop the ATF from making braced pistols SBR's?

 

[HoughMade]

ATF amnesty for braced pistols? LINK BELOW.

LINK: https://omb.report/icr/202208-1140-007/doc/124454800The ATF seems to have inadvertently announced that they plan to conduct an amnesty for braced pisto...

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So now it looks like it maybe free to turn your pistol into a SBR when they bring out the ruling.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Will there be a lawsuit to stop the ATF from making braced pistols SBR

First, if there is an "amnesty" I would not expect it to be "free".

Second, if there is a free "amnesty", why wouldn't everyone take advantage, then go get a decent, actual stock rather than these weird compromise "braces".

 

[bobzilla]

I assume there will be numerous legal challenges before it goes into effect; hopefully by our AG. In the meantime what's supposed to happen with all the soon-to-be illegal firearms out there? A government buyback? Please educate me.

If you have some you are afraid will be illegal please feel free to contact me. I will ensure they are properly taken care of in the correct legal manner.

 

[DadSmith]

If you have some you are afraid will be illegal please feel free to contact me. I will ensure they are properly taken care of in the correct legal manner.

You will just lose them in a tragic boating accident.

 

[DadSmith]

First, if there is an "amnesty" I would not expect it to be "free".

Second, if there is a free "amnesty", why wouldn't everyone take advantage, then go get a decent, actual stock rather than these weird compromise "braces".

I was thinking the same thing.

I don't know much about NFA items or how you go about getting one. Definitely take advantage of it if it's free, or remove the brace.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[DDadams]

Well sh*t.

Guess the ATF us getting another 200 out of me tomorrow now. No way I'm going to wait any longer to sbr the rifle I've been thinking about doing it for. Might as well after buying a suppressor. Especially if there'll be a 20M+ backlog in December.

 

[Tombs]

First, if there is an "amnesty" I would not expect it to be "free".

Second, if there is a free "amnesty", why wouldn't everyone take advantage, then go get a decent, actual stock rather than these weird compromise "braces".

Because, considering recent violent actions towards gun owners, that might just be a fishing expedition.

I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk 25 years in prison to be able to post pictures of something.

Hard to prove you have something... Until you sign government paperwork saying you have it. Unless a lawyer is attached to the process and retained, that seems very dangerous to do.

 

[daddyusmaximus]

If I'm gonna SBR anything ever again... (especially after that speech the other night) I'll hold off till some company releases a lower marked "MAGA REPUBLIC".

 

[TheGhostRider]

I don’t have a dog in this fight as I don’t own a braced anything… yet. Honestly I’ve no desire or need but am not opposed to them. I don’t own a SB anything either… no tax stamps in my life.
You want it… you should be able to own it.

Personally I think having to get a permission slip/tax stamp to own ANYTHING is the real crime!

Maybe I’m missing something but it seems to me the move on braces is the “A lways T aking F irearms” way of getting more addresses.
Serious question.
What stops them from changing the rules again and making short barrel (insert gun of choice here) prohibited? If they can make up s**t along the way how do you know your not wasting 200 skins on a form to put a stock on a sb stick?
What about suppressors? This is one area I’m interested in… my friggin ears ring enough now. I think I’d like to get a suppressor for my pistol but I’ve hesitated. These tax stamps appear to be nothing but registration… the road map to confiscation.

 

[KLB]

If I'm gonna SBR anything ever again... (especially after that speech the other night) I'll hold off till some company releases a lower marked "MAGA REPUBLIC".

You could always get your engraved.

 

[BugI02]

If the current AWB / magazine ban passes senate and SCOTUS doesn't kick that **** out nearly immediately I feel like that's a suitable hill.

I just don't know how many people are going to pony up the balls it takes to say no, publicly, in this day and age.

And you likely never will know (unless you're first in the stack)

In this day and age, discussions like this are just providing grist for the red flag/show trial - and people who insist on trying to get others to post impolitic things are viewed with suspicion, rightly so IMO

 

[BugI02]

IDK about myth, maybe it's one of those "add-ons" they use when they either can't get you for anything else but REALLY WANT TO LOCK YOU UP, or it's something they tack on for bonus sentencing when they catch you for something else.

This is the ATF we're talking about. If they 'can't get you for anything else' they have shown that they will entrap you into a rule violation and then call in FBI snipers to kill your family and you (Ruby Ridge) or manufacture some 'for the children' pretext in order to raid your compound/commune and then burn you all alive when that raid goes south (Waco)

 

[BugI02]

I thought banning gimmick accessories was how we Keep America Great?

No, you're confusing that with legalizing weed