You lo down pole cat, you calling out the non-ruger shooters Seriously Savage, Ruger, CZ, Marlin, Henry ... good to have so many quality rifles to choose ...I have a Ruger 77/17 w/walnut stock. I believe you will be hard pressed to find a .17 that shoots and feels as good as the Ruger 77/17.The Ruger quality is unsurpassed. I have no doubt that the Savages, CZ'z etc...are good, but the Ruger in IMHO is head and shoulders above them.