Wal Mart brawl leaves one dead, several injured

[BehindBlueI's]

That individual that kept yelling you are Nazis, would not have been awake to see the finish of the fight. Also just wondering what does the JBT community think of the Asp vs. Pr24?

Collapsible baton: Easy to carry, always on your belt, won't forget in your car, but not nearly as much force. Weighted improperly, with the weight toward the handle. If you're bigger or your technique is good you can do some work with it, but not as much work (force) as you could with a wooden or composite stick of PR24 length.

Straight stick/PR24: Have to grab it as you get out of the car. Does more work.

It some ways it turns into the ".38 in your pocket vs the rifle in your closet" argument. If you've got it, its better. If you don't, its useless.

 

[dusty88]

...Which brings us back to the drug question. What was Mom doing in that bathroom that required guarding? Of course, that could bring us back to the brain wash question or just creepy family culture. Who knows? I hope they drug tested them anyway, when they brough them in. Certainly their behavior would give probable cause, if it were even needed after all that.

Wow, sad situation. Very sad. In my humble opinion, the officers showed an incredible amount of restraint, clearly not wanting this to get to a deadly situation, if they could help it.

While it was totally inappropriate to block Walmart's public restroom, we don't know their "reasoning". It could have been as simple as that she was changing her clothes and washing up in there, and they didn't want anyone to know. Supposedly the family was living in the Suburban.

 

[printcraft]

They don't look too worse for wear. Was anybody getting pepper sprayed?

 

[oldpink]

While it was totally inappropriate to block Walmart's public restroom, we don't know their "reasoning". It could have been as simple as that she was changing her clothes and washing up in there, and they didn't want anyone to know. Supposedly the family was living in the Suburban.

So, that means they get to shove employees around and stake a claim to a public bathroom?

 

[oldpink]

They don't look too worse for wear. Was anybody getting pepper sprayed?

They'd look way better with the little cartoon Xs over their eyes.

 

[bradmedic04]

They don't look too worse for wear. Was anybody getting pepper sprayed?

Yeah, they looked mildly inconvenienced by it.

 

[bradmedic04]

So, will their family band record sales go through the roof like rappers' do when they get shot?

 

[Razer]

I watched this in its entirety yesterday and then came here to see if there was a thread about it yet but there was not then. I was amazed at the chaos there, officers definately had an insanely hard to handle scene. I feel for the officers for sure in this mess, glad it ended as well as it did.

The big guy in the brown shirt I think it was, man can he take some punishment or what? I was truly amazed he did not feet shot when approaching the downed officer there towards the end. I noticed the downed officer reloading/checking his pistol while he was being worked on by the other officer and then later on he and that officer both were ready to shoot him. Would definately have been inside my comfort zone were I on the ground already shot!

I believe it was said the wal-mart employee suffered a broken arm in the early coverage of this event. Not sure if that was true, but it was mentioned early. Good on him to help out, hope he came out of this okay too as many LP employees are let go for going hands on. Shoot, at Best Buy you'll get fired if you exit the building to get a vehicle ID let alone assist cops in a fight!

 

[bradmedic04]

The Wally World employee might have a welcome spot on the local police force.

 

[dusty88]

So, that means they get to shove employees around and stake a claim to a public bathroom?

I absolutely did not say that. I was merely responding to the idea that the "blocked" restroom meant they were doing drugs. Of course they were wrong to even suggest the restroom use would be exclusive, let alone become physical with someone.

 

[tmcindy]

Inbred Crackers.

 

[Dale1320]

That was insane! I will never understand why people have such a hard time following orders and then think it would be a good idea physically fight law enforcement! Great job by those officers for showing restraint and not shooting all of them when they started attacking the officers.

 

[Alamo]

What a rumble. I can't help noticing that at those points where deadly force was in order but backdrop was a problem, having and being able to access a knife would have been very useful. Messy, but useful.

 

[jblomenberg16]

It depends. If I need help, I'm not going to care where it comes from just don't insert yourself in something needlessly. Just ask, "Do you need help?" "Do you need a hand?" If it's bad enough, just jump in, if you can do so safely. It wouldn't hurt to yell at the suspect, "Get off the officer." "Stop resisting the officer." Etc, as you are jumping in to help. That will announce your intentions pretty well.

I was wondering the same thing. I think a lot of us aren't looking to interfere, but would assist in the right situation. The last any of us would want would be to become mistake for one of the "bad guys" and wind up shot, tased, or otherwise injured as a result. I'd have a hard time watching anyone get a beat down like that, but sometimes its tough to tell the good guys from the bad guys. In this case it was pretty clear who the "good guys" were in terms of the uniformed officers.

 

[jblomenberg16]

Anymore info on the injured officer? Was it from the shot fired at his attacker? Looks like the other officer immediately started rendering aid to him and may have either used his own, or the wounded officers "Blow out" kit. Looks like a triangular bandage and maybe even a belt used as a tourniquet.

 

[Dead Duck]

It depends. If I need help, I'm not going to care where it comes from just don't insert yourself in something needlessly. Just ask, "Do you need help?" "Do you need a hand?" If it's bad enough, just [STRIKE]jump in[/STRIKE] Start Shooting, if you can do so safely. It wouldn't hurt to yell at the suspect, "Get The **** off the officer." "Stop ****ing resisting the officer, *******." Etc, as you are [STRIKE]jumping in[/STRIKE] Shooting to help. That will announce your intentions pretty well.

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So does anyone else here feel bad for that poor Suburban.

 

[Alamo]

Anymore info on the injured officer? Was it from the shot fired at his attacker? Looks like the other officer immediately started rendering aid to him and may have either used his own, or the wounded officers "Blow out" kit. Looks like a triangular bandage and maybe even a belt used as a tourniquet.

According to the Chief in the press conference video, the officer in the video is at home, still in pain, but at home. The officer who tended to him had previously been a firefighter/paramedic. It did look to me like a big triangular bandage had been used.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Inbred Crackers.

Awesome band name!

 

[churchmouse]

The Wally World employee might have a welcome spot on the local police force.

That young man threw down hard. He was right in the mix putting it out there.
He took a few as well.

 

[churchmouse]

They'd look way better with the little cartoon Xs over their eyes.