BehindBlueI's
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- Oct 3, 2012
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https://www.policeone.com/off-duty/...campaign=P1Member&cub_id=usr_ZxONRHFdfsQ1c8gU
[video=youtube;xsy2_oQEmEw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsy2_oQEmEw[/video]
Some things to think about:
As LE off duty...do you REALLY need to get involved? Is someone going to die or be seriously hurt if you don't? If you do get involved, are you readily identifiable to the suspect, to witnesses, and to responding officers? If not, how will you deal with that? The time to think it over is now, not at 4am after you shot someone.
For everyone...if you had no more information other than what you saw on camera once you walked up to the off duty cop holding the first attacker, seemingly as a hostage, what would you do? This is always a concern of involving yourself in other people's problems. Do you really have the correct info you need?
Note how evidence disappeared. Mope #2 picked up the gun and it left the scene. He appears to pick up a fired casing as well. Absent cameras, "you shot an unarmed man..." How's that play out with the "don't say nothing to the police ever" advice Internet gurus are fond of espousing as well? This is why you need to articulate where evidence is before evidence has a chance to disappear when possible.
Note the repetition of the officer pointing the gun, the hurt suspect swatting at it, and they go through the little dance over and over. That's a type of freezing, a mental stutter. What you're doing isn't working but it isn't getting you killed. You need to be able to recognize you're in that mental stutter and break it...which can be very difficult if you're not aware of and prepared for the possibility. Actually, even if you are.
Do not assume others think or act like you do. Holding mope #1 hostage may not influence mope #2 in the way you think it will.
Perhaps there's a time to leave the wounded guy, move to cover, deal with the other threat. Easy to say in hindsight, of course, but we're analyzing in the hopes of doing it even better next time. Especially after mope #2 shoots at you, it's probably time to take the fight to him.
[video=youtube;xsy2_oQEmEw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsy2_oQEmEw[/video]
Some things to think about:
As LE off duty...do you REALLY need to get involved? Is someone going to die or be seriously hurt if you don't? If you do get involved, are you readily identifiable to the suspect, to witnesses, and to responding officers? If not, how will you deal with that? The time to think it over is now, not at 4am after you shot someone.
For everyone...if you had no more information other than what you saw on camera once you walked up to the off duty cop holding the first attacker, seemingly as a hostage, what would you do? This is always a concern of involving yourself in other people's problems. Do you really have the correct info you need?
Note how evidence disappeared. Mope #2 picked up the gun and it left the scene. He appears to pick up a fired casing as well. Absent cameras, "you shot an unarmed man..." How's that play out with the "don't say nothing to the police ever" advice Internet gurus are fond of espousing as well? This is why you need to articulate where evidence is before evidence has a chance to disappear when possible.
Note the repetition of the officer pointing the gun, the hurt suspect swatting at it, and they go through the little dance over and over. That's a type of freezing, a mental stutter. What you're doing isn't working but it isn't getting you killed. You need to be able to recognize you're in that mental stutter and break it...which can be very difficult if you're not aware of and prepared for the possibility. Actually, even if you are.
Do not assume others think or act like you do. Holding mope #1 hostage may not influence mope #2 in the way you think it will.
Perhaps there's a time to leave the wounded guy, move to cover, deal with the other threat. Easy to say in hindsight, of course, but we're analyzing in the hopes of doing it even better next time. Especially after mope #2 shoots at you, it's probably time to take the fight to him.