VA screws veterans...fatally....again. At least they didn't burn a flag.

[BehindBlueI's]

A fatal wait: Veterans languish and die on a VA hospital's secret list - CNN.com

At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care system, many of whom were placed on a secret waiting list.
The secret list was part of an elaborate scheme designed by Veterans Affairs managers in Phoenix who were trying to hide that 1,400 to 1,600 sick veterans were forced to wait months to see a doctor, according to a recently retired top VA doctor and several high-level sources.

There you go, folks. What veterans have been telling you for decades. The VA is inept, poorly resourced, and often does a terrible job of taking care of veterans. Dealing with the VA hospital in Louisville was a Byzantine nightmare, the waiting rooms were standing room only, the staff was surly (most likely due to the conditions they were working with), and its just effing maddening that our so called veteran's organizations like the American Legion are silent about this but spent millions of dollars trying to put in place a flag burning amendment.

The VA owes me a knee. I'll likely just end up getting it on the private side instead of dealing with that rat's nest of ineptitude and apathy again.

 

[steveh_131]

I've seen nothing good come from the VA for any of my family members. What a disaster of a program.

 

[hornadylnl]

I've seen nothing good come from the VA for any of my family members. What a disaster of a program.

But if you said you wanted to cut a single dollar from it, watch out.

VA... Government healthcare conservatives are in love with.

 

[SERparacord]

VA facilities should be closed and the Vets allowed to go to the nearest public hospital.

 

[Manatee]

I guess that's your opinion. I have had excellent treatment from the Roudebush Center here in Indy!

Perhaps you're just a crabby old man?

 

[SERparacord]

I guess that's your opinion. I have had excellent treatment from the Roudebush Center here in Indy!

Perhaps you're just a crabby old man?

How dare you call me a Manatee!

 

[Redtbird]

VA facilities should be closed and the Vets allowed to go to the nearest public hospital.

And where are unemployed, or under-employed, veterans are supposed to get the money to pay for treatment at a non-VA hospital? I had gall bladder surgery last August, and a civilian hospital. However, I am retired and on Social Security and Medicare. Luckily I also have a Medicare Supplement insurance policy that pays what Medicare doesn't pay. My having the surgery locally and paying for it with my insurance policies, in effect, freed up over $30,000 that the VA could use for another Veteran.

 

[Redtbird]

I guess that's your opinion. I have had excellent treatment from the Roudebush Center here in Indy!

I agree with you Manatee. I have visited several different departments at Roudebush, and have also gotten really good treatment and advice. All the meds I take come from their pharmacy at no cost to me. But for emergencies and the like, I do go to my local hospital because they are closer.

 

[SERparacord]

And where are unemployed, or under-employed, veterans are supposed to get the money to pay for treatment at a non-VA hospital? I had gall bladder surgery last August, and a civilian hospital. However, I am retired and on Social Security and Medicare. Luckily I also have a Medicare Supplement insurance policy that pays what Medicare doesn't pay. My having the surgery locally and paying for it with my insurance policies, in effect, freed up over $30,000 that the VA could use for another Veteran.

According to the article they didn't use for another vet. Luckily, as you stated, you had other insurance.

 

[Manatee]

I agree with you Manatee. I have visited several different departments at Roudebush, and have also gotten really good treatment and advice. All the meds I take come from their pharmacy at no cost to me. But for emergencies and the like, I do go to my local hospital because they are closer.

I always appreciate hearing from non-Vets about what we ought to do with the VA. They generally have no idea about traumatic injury suffered in a war zone. Oh sure, they'll yell "hoorah" about sending out troops somewhere to kick ass, but don't want to pay for the damage after the battle is over.

Stuff it, you sunshine patriots!

 

[SERparacord]

I always appreciate hearing from non-Vets about what we ought to do with the VA. They generally have no idea about traumatic injury suffered in a war zone. Oh sure, they'll yell "hoorah" about sending out troops somewhere to kick ass, but don't want to pay for the damage after the battle is over.

Stuff it, you sunshine patriots!

I am a combat vet and you still owe me an apology for calling me a Manatee.

 

[Manatee]

Who said I was talking to you, Doofus? You weren't the OP. The world does not revolve around you and not everything is about you.

 

[SERparacord]

Who said I was talking to you, Doofus? You weren't the OP. The world does not revolve around you and not everything is about you.

So you were just blabbering like you were in a PTSD meeting.

 

[Manatee]

Indiana has two things going for it for vets who are disabled as a result of their participation in the US sanctioned war games: Roudebush and Property Tax abatement.

You know about the first. Did you know about the latter?

You wingnuts can continue to take your moronic stands on issues that "real" people have to deal with day in / day out. And what you end up with is looking exactly like morons when you support people like Bundy, et al.

 

[SERparacord]

Indiana has two things going for it for vets who are disabled as a result of their participation in the US sanctioned war games: Roudebush and Property Tax abatement.

You know about the first. Did you know about the latter?

You wingnuts can continue to take your moronic stands on issues that "real" people have to deal with day in / day out. And what you end up with is looking exactly like morons when you support people like Bundy, et al.

Obamacare for all!!!

 

[Manatee]

See? That's just idiotic. It has nothing to do with the subject. You fall back on tired ideas and slogans. You expect people to listen to you? To respect your opinion?

 

[hornadylnl]

Obamacare for all!!!

This is my issue. How can those so opposed to government run healthcare act like the VA is the best thing since sliced bread?

 

[SERparacord]

This is my issue. How can those so opposed to government run healthcare act like the VA is the best thing since sliced bread?

They get their free pills on time.

 

[rex soldier]

I like this thread

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Who said I was talking to you, Doofus? You weren't the OP. The world does not revolve around you and not everything is about you.

I am the OP of the thread. I'm a vet. Who exactly were you talking to?

I'm glad you've had good experiences with Indy's VA. Truly, I am. I wouldn't wish Louisville's VA on anyone.