I would say manslaughter before murder.
It was an accident?
I would say manslaughter before murder.
The issue is the precedence.
The precedence that possessing a firearm means you are fair game to be shot by a police officer.
"In general, the main differences between manslaughter and murder are as follows. Manslaughter is killing someone without planning the crime ahead of time or in a situation where killing was not intentional. Murder is killing someone by planning the crime ahead of time."It was an accident?
Manslaughter does not always equate to accidental.It was an accident?
Agree with you 100%. But I don't go knocking on strangers doors.I'm not advocating officer safety, I'm more of the common sense tactics type of person. As a non police officer, if I knock on a stranger's door, I'm not standing in front of the door. That's just common sense and self preservation.
Would a reasonable person answer the door armed? Probably. Would a SMART person refuse to open the door unless they were absolutely certain who was on the other side? ABSOLUTELY!
I'm not siding with the police on this. At best, it was a questionable shooting, and that's giving insane amounts of "benefit of doubt". From what I've seen, it wasn't a good shoot, but that doesn't mean the victim was 100% faultless. If anything, this should be a good lesson that YOU SHOULDN'T OPEN THE DOOR!!!
IF I was an apartment dweller, I'd be doing what I can to make sure my door is harder to open.Agree with you 100%. But I don't go knocking on strangers doors.
But if you're an apartment dweller, how do you solve for that situation?
Let's say they don't answer the door, officer breaks down the door. Reasonable person would shoot the person who broke down the door, before they verified ID, no?
Manslaughter does not always equate to accidental.
The attitude of some people about the killing of this young man is disturbing. Mr. Stein if that was your son who was shot for being armed in his own home would you still react like this? I FN doubt it. If you ever wonder to yourself where the ACAB crap comes from, well your looking at it pal.MiLiTaRiZaTiOn Of PoLiCe.
If the only alternative is giving police license to gun someone down for the mere act of holding a firearm within the confines of their own home, then I'm afraid I'm going to have to say yes.Do you not want police to respond to calls at people's homes anymore?
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself for saying it. Pal.The attitude of some people about the killing of this young man is disturbing. Mr. Stein if that was your son who was shot for being armed in his own home would you still react like this? I FN doubt it. If you ever wonder to yourself where the ACAB crap comes from, well your looking at it pal.
Law Enforcement doesn't cede all rights by virtue of their occupation, including the inherent right of self defense.Having done both jobs, I don't agree.
This wasn't self defense. This was a man with a handgun on his side in his castle. There was no threat from this man to LE to preempt the response he was given from the LEO.Law Enforcement doesn't cede all rights by virtue of their occupation, including the inherent right of self defense.
So what are you saying Frank?MiLiTaRiZaTiOn Of PoLiCe.
How do police ID themselves to a deaf person? Through a door.Agree with you 100%. But I don't go knocking on strangers doors.
But if you're an apartment dweller, how do you solve for that situation?
Let's say they don't answer the door, officer breaks down the door. Reasonable person would shoot the person who broke down the door, before they verified ID, no?
Its an overused term that MrGunsNGear used in his tweet.So what are you saying Frank?
Thank you.Its an overused term that MrGunsNGear used in his tweet.
Once again, a reasonable response.IF I was an apartment dweller, I'd be doing what I can to make sure my door is harder to open.
If someone is attempting to break down my door, I'm defending myself. I'll be conveniently positioned behind cover, and I'll do what is necessary to survive.
However, this isn't what happened. The victim made a poor decision to open the door. The police officer made the poor decision to shoot first and ask questions later. Both sides ****ed up. One side is the ultimate loser.
Can't believe I agree with @CreedmoorThis wasn't self defense. This was a man with a handgun on his side in his castle. There was no threat from this man to LE to preempt the response he was given from the LEO.