Unusual Chinese-Built 12-Ga.

[Steve.43]

I just bought a (used) 12-ga. pump shotgun. It's all black, with nylon (?) stock and forearm, and has an 18" barrel. It takes 3" shells with lead shot only. The only company named on this gun is "UltraCell, Inc." of Ronkonkomo, NY, probably the distributor and not the manufacturer, as it does also say "Made in China." There was no manual with the gun. It is the "home defense" variety of shotgun, which is what I wanted and the price was right. The gun looks new.

Does anybody know anything about these? I haven't fired it yet and would gladly take some advice about its safety before I do!

Thanks,

Steve

 

[The Meach]

I think i might have tracked down your company

does it look like any of these?

I know that last one is far fetched but you said "unusual" :-P

 

[Slow Hand]

Does it look similar to an American design? I"ve seen some of the Chinese knock-off's of Ithaca 37's and Remington 870's. Never owned one, but the prices hacve been low enough to be tempting.

Doug K

 

[Steve.43]

It looks a lot like the third one down from the top, except that mine is bottom-load, bottom-eject.

 

[The Meach]

hmmmmmm

well these still might be your boys?

Modern Firearms - NORINCO / Hawk Industries Type 97-1 pump action shotgun

 

[Steve.43]

Meach--Thanks. After looking it over, I think maybe so. If it is, they say it's a knockoff of the 870 in a "police version."

I appreciate the help.

Steve

 

[The Meach]

haha i might be a newbie compared to most of these guys when it comes to guns but few can top my skills as a MacGyver of the Internets

 

[shooter521]

Meach--Thanks. After looking it over, I think maybe so. If it is, they say it's a knockoff of the 870 in a "police version."

I appreciate the help.

Steve - If your gun is bottom load/bottom eject, then it is NOT a Type 97. It is most likely a YL-12, which is based on the Ithaca Model 37. Mag tube cap will be non-removable, and the barrel will turn 90 degrees to lock into place. The "Security" model featured black furniture and a short fixed-choke barrel.

Ultracell was the importer prior to 2005, when Century Arms took over.

From Century's 2006 catalog... is this your gun?

 

[The Meach]

Steve - If your gun is bottom load/bottom eject, then it is NOT a Type 97. It is most likely a YL-12, which is based on the Ithaca Model 37. Mag tube cap will be non-removable, and the barrel will turn 90 degrees to lock into place. The "Security" model featured black furniture and a short fixed-choke barrel.

Ultracell was the importer prior to 2005, when Century Arms took over.

From Century's 2006 catalog... is this your gun?

ooooooooo Critical win for the Shootermister

 

[Steve.43]

Shooter: Even better. This does look exactly like it. I enhanced and lightened up the photo with Photoshop and now can see that...yep, this is the one. Thanks!

Any idea how I could get an owner's manual?

I'm a novice at this, but I would guess that the 3" chamber means I should expect a lot of unnecessary wear if I shot shorter shells through it?

Steve

 

[shooter521]

Any idea how I could get an owner's manual?

Yep.
http://www.centuryarms.com/manuals/yl12.PDF

I'm a novice at this, but I would guess that the 3" chamber means I should expect a lot of unnecessary wear if I shot shorter shells through it?

Not at all; a 3" chambered shotgun can handle 2-3/4" or 3" shells just fine.

 

[The Meach]

Yep.
http://www.centuryarms.com/manuals/yl12.PDF

For Sh*ts & Giggles i checked out the manual, and it my be greatest examples of Engrish i have ever seen in long time

"YL12-1J2 pump shotgun has the advantages of elegant shape, high accuray in firing, safe and reliable operations."

 

[waloidian]

what do you expect for a knockoff gun. if it goes bang, then its done its job for the price.

 

[jeremy]

Actually, they are pretty decent knock offs.

 

[karlsgunbunker]

I think i might have tracked down your company

does it look like any of these?

I have one of these. It is bottom load and bottom eject.
UNC 37.
Nice little 12ga, I bought mine several years ago from CDNN.
I wouldn't mind having another one.

 

[Chefcook]

Hell Ide take one if the price was right..

 

[Steve.43]

Hey, I owe you guys all a big thank-you. Thanks to you, I got it identified, got the manual (such as it is) printed out, and even took it outside this afternoon and fired it. I'd say the shotgun is a lot better put together than the manual. It's really not bad at all. I only bought it for home protection and hopefully will not have to fire it again.

Thanks for the help,

Steve

 

[Panama]

Glad it went bang and not KA-BOOM!
Now your gonna need some of this.
Get'em while you can, and they still have some in stock!

Go to, Sellier and Bellot 12 ga 2 3/4" 00 Buck 25/box - Natchez Shooters Supplies

Sellier and Bellot 12 ga 2 3/4" 00 Buck 25/box

Product Number: ZYSBA01221

Product Title: 12GA 00 BUCK CLEAR 12PELL 25/BOX

Item Price: $14.99

Multiple Qty Discounts: 10 items at $12.99 each

Availability: In Stock

Shipping Weight: 3.48 lbs.

12 Pellets each

 

[Steve.43]

Panama: Thanks, I ordered a couple of boxes. Are they about to outlaw 00 Buck or is the run on ammo just clearing the shelves? Or both? Glad to get the Natchez site in my bookmarks, also. Their prices are better than the off-the-shelf price around here, which is a little over $1 a shell. But the shipping seems high. $15 and change for 7 lbs. I guess it balances out.

Thanks for the info,

Steve

 

[Panama]

Steve,
Glad to be of assistance!
"I" think it is just the buying frenzy that has everything in short supply.
But my theory is, you can never have too much OO buck around