Traveling across country with firearms.

[Rocket57]

I will be moving to Colorado in late November and do not want to run afoul of the law transporting my weapons. Missouri and Colorado both honor my Indiana LTCH, Kansas does not, and of course we all know about the Socialist Republic of Illinois.
All the weapons will be unloaded and inaccessible, probably buried in the back of the rental truck. From what I read you need a FOID card in Illinois to carry a gun in your vehicle and even then it must be inaccessible and unloaded.
1. Do non-residents of IL. need to do anything other than get across the state as quick as possible?
2. Anyone have any knowledge of Kansas gun laws?
Everything I can find pertains to the reciprocity laws regarding carrying a handgun in those states. I simply want to transport my firearms to a new home.
Thanks

Edit:
Found the answer on Handgunlaw.us.
Looks like locked up,unloaded, and inaccessible are all I need.

 

[K_W]

Research federal "peaceable journey" laws.

Federal trumps Illinois.

 

[ditto]

You don't need a FOID card to transport your firearms through IL.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

The irony is that Illinois has better laws than FOPA dictates. Just unloaded and incased- including an unlocked compartment like a glovebox or console.

 

[wizard_of_ahs]

Travel | OpenCarry.org

 

[Titanium_Frost]

That is a confusing map becuase I see a few unlicensed OC states that are in red.

 

[cosermann]

For states you'll just be "passing through."

Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Alamo]

1. Put guns out of sight in vehicle.
2. Drive across America like sane sober adult, within a couple mph of speed limit.
3. Arrive destination, take guns out of vehicle.

Worked for me several times..

 

[Titanium_Frost]

1.

What happens when a drunk slams into you and your guns go flying out? Recomending someone break the law on a public forum and admitting to the same is not wise.

 

[Mikuhl]

A little change up on the question. What if I am going to IL to visit family and stay for a few days, maybe even do some shooting?

Family owns some rural property and are FOID card holders. Is unloaded and in a case still OK?

 

[daddymikey1975]

I believe so. If you need to stop and sleep over (at a hotel for instance) you are still not at your destination (the end of your moving trip) and therefore are still 'passing through'.. although the shooting trip may complicate things..

Read the illinois laws carefully

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

A little change up on the question. What if I am going to IL to visit family and stay for a few days, maybe even do some shooting?

Family owns some rural property and are FOID card holders. Is unloaded and in a case still OK?

You take your guns into IL with you...and you shoot them.

Unloaded (loaded mags are OK in IL) and in a secure wrapper. Don't have to be locked with 50 different combination locks and in the trunk of the car.

Up until Indiana passed their recent law, IL had BETTER transport laws than IN did.

-J-

 

[Titanium_Frost]

A little change up on the question. What if I am going to IL to visit family and stay for a few days, maybe even do some shooting?

Family owns some rural property and are FOID card holders. Is unloaded and in a case still OK?

Yes. Illinois counts a valid permit as a FOID card so technically they have reciprocity with us as far as their laws allow.

Unloaded and encased anywhere except Cook County and you are fine.

You take your guns into IL with you...and you shoot them.

Unloaded (loaded mags are OK in IL) and in a secure wrapper. Don't have to be locked with 50 different combination locks and in the trunk of the car.

Up until Indiana passed their recent law, IL had BETTER transport laws than IN did.

-J-

Slight correction: Secure wrapper is Indiana's old law. Enclosed in a case is Illinois' term.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Yes. Illinois counts a valid permit as a FOID card so technically they have reciprocity with us as far as their laws allow.

Unloaded and encased anywhere except Cook County and you are fine.



Slight correction: Secure wrapper is Indiana's old law. Enclosed in a case is Illinois' term.

Terms schmerms.

 

[JettaKnight]

Unloaded and inaccessible - you'll be fine and legal.

A little change up on the question. What if I am going to IL to visit family and stay for a few days, maybe even do some shooting?

Family owns some rural property and are FOID card holders. Is unloaded and in a case still OK?

Yup.

Furthermore, your LTCH is considered as valid as a FOID - Ill. supreme court ruled on this.

I believe so. If you need to stop and sleep over (at a hotel for instance) you are still not at your destination (the end of your moving trip) and therefore are still 'passing through' although the shooting trip may complicate things.

No, any stops overnight and you are no longer protected by FOPA travel rules. People have been arrested in NJ for this.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

No, any stops overnight and you are no longer protected by FOPA travel rules. People have been arrested in NJ for this.

But were they charged and convicted? If NJ was not their final destination I don't see why an overnight stay voids FOPA protection.

 

[JettaKnight]

But were they charged and convicted? If NJ was not their final destination I don't see why an overnight stay voids FOPA protection.

As I recall the man was traveling and was rerouted to Newark's airport. He was forced to spend a night in a hotel with his luggage, including a handgun locked in the case. US code is somewhat vague as to what constitutes a destination.

I do believe a conviction was the result.

EDIT:

18 USC § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms

Gregg Revell

 

[Titanium_Frost]

As I recall the man was traveling and was rerouted to Newark's airport. He was forced to spend a night in a hotel with his luggage, including a handgun locked in the case. US code is somewhat vague as to what constitutes a destination.

I do believe a conviction was the result.

I would love to see it if you can find it.

 

[JettaKnight]

I would love to see it if you can find it.

I posted a link to one of the well known ones, Gregg C. Revell. Turns out he wasn't convicted, just spent a lot of money and ten days in the slammer.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I posted a link to one of the well known ones, Gregg C. Revell. Turns out he wasn't convicted, just spent a lot of money and ten days in the slammer.

From that it was a gross error on the police and the prosecutor who admitted he did not know what the FOPA was. All charges were dropped.

I stand by my original assumption- he was still traveling and therefore still under the protection of FOPA.

I am living proof that just because the law protects you, does not mean the local PD has a clue.