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This is why I carry: assault and robbery caught on video
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I couldn't finish the vid since my kid walked in. But in the order of "What I'd do."
1. Not be there in the first place.
2. Roll up windows and get the hell outta there.
3. Start backing up with a sudden acceleration when the car door was open and the thug was standing on the interior side of it.
Somewhere in there is an opportunity to shoot, but I've been in a situation where there was an opportunity to shoot. Sometimes it's better to escape and evade than have to defend or go on the offense.
Kinda like the women who dresses like a whore and gets drunk at a party. She should be able to behave like that without having to worry about someone taking advantage of her. But with the world the way it is and people the way they are, it's a bit foolish to assume you'll come out of a risky situation unharmed. You almost have to assume you will be targeted and behave accordingly.
1. Not be there in the first place.
2. Roll up windows and get the hell outta there.
3. Start backing up with a sudden acceleration when the car door was open and the thug was standing on the interior side of it.
Somewhere in there is an opportunity to shoot, but I've been in a situation where there was an opportunity to shoot. Sometimes it's better to escape and evade than have to defend or go on the offense.
Kinda like the women who dresses like a whore and gets drunk at a party. She should be able to behave like that without having to worry about someone taking advantage of her. But with the world the way it is and people the way they are, it's a bit foolish to assume you'll come out of a risky situation unharmed. You almost have to assume you will be targeted and behave accordingly.
Liberalism that runs that town.
You'll shoot your eye out
Master
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I have been in a similar situation on 38th street at McDonalds. A car door is a formidable weapon. The first guy went down on his knees and then took several more hits from the door to his head, He went out. This was when I put my gun on the dash before carefully backing out and driving away. I was then stopped by police at 38th and sherman and thrown into the curb. 3 hours later I was told to leave and never show myself in the area again. I had a dented door, torn shirt (cops), bleeding forearm (cops) and gun locked in my trunk (cops). Some places you don't know who is worse, the jitterbugs or johnny law........
Well, you at least have a fighting chance against jitterbugs.
Then, if I couldn't get out and he didn't **** his pants at the sight of my gun, he would get two.
You'll shoot your eye out
Master
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Yes, I stand corrected. Another problem is that you are conditioned to comply with the cops. I had used the door on the thug before I even realized what I was doing (upon realization of what I had done, I hit him a few more times). But when the cop walked up to my window, I rolled it down..... The next thing I knew, I was in the street with a knee on my neck. I bet there were 10 cops there. I don't even know if he dragged me through the window or snatched the door open. It was a tough night after a tough day at work.
And that is sad.
I don't know about you, but there isn't a person on this planet that could pull me out of a car window if I resisted. If a police officer (they'd have to be huge) attempted it, I would probably be so scared for my life that I'd let it happen. I mean, what are my other options? Resist and get beaten even worse or killed?
To me it wouldn't be worth popping the guy for a few reasons.
1) right or wrong it is likely going to cost you money to defend yourself in court (even if you dont hit an innocent).
2) While Que's hypothesis that his buddies would up and bolt seems very probable one can always surmise (with a probability) when dealing with idiots the improbable is always a probable when dealing in uncertain probables. (trademarked and not to be used in any future Que Videos)
3) If you let that situation get to the point where you need a gun you have let the situation escalate and are probably not the sharpest tool in the shed anyway.
4) Shoot the guy and when his coward ass friends gain the courage to find out where you live (it will be a matter of public record) and shoot your house up as retribution (see Boyz N The Hood) and hurt you or a family member. Some of you may say bring it on but to this I can only sigh.
I say the best option is to agree with those to remove yourself from this scenario before it gets escalated.
1) right or wrong it is likely going to cost you money to defend yourself in court (even if you dont hit an innocent).
2) While Que's hypothesis that his buddies would up and bolt seems very probable one can always surmise (with a probability) when dealing with idiots the improbable is always a probable when dealing in uncertain probables. (trademarked and not to be used in any future Que Videos)
3) If you let that situation get to the point where you need a gun you have let the situation escalate and are probably not the sharpest tool in the shed anyway.
4) Shoot the guy and when his coward ass friends gain the courage to find out where you live (it will be a matter of public record) and shoot your house up as retribution (see Boyz N The Hood) and hurt you or a family member. Some of you may say bring it on but to this I can only sigh.
I say the best option is to agree with those to remove yourself from this scenario before it gets escalated.
You'll shoot your eye out
Master
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Who had time to resist? Hell, I was young..... I might of resisted, if I had time. He snatched me out the car without even a word and slammed me down like a rag doll, and I am not exactly a tiny guy. I had a burn across my neck from the seatbelt and I honestly don't remember how I exited the car. Maybe I was unconscious at some point? It was rough.
That was why I commented on being conditioned to submit to the cops...... You roll down your window like you are suppose to do without thinking you are going to experience the second criminal assault in 10 minutes.
Benny, I don't know you or know how big you are, but I believe that this particular hulk of a cop could drag you out a car window. either way I know what happened to me in a split second. The difference was the uniform. The jitterbug caught door before I could think, The cop however was given every opportunity to finish what the first guy started. I surely didn't expect the same conduct from both of them.
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Misunderstanding, buddy.
I was saying that there is absolutely, positively not one single person on this planet that could pull me out of a car window, IF they are not wearing a badge (like in your situation). The sad part is that a cop has so much authority that if you resist, regardless if you are innocent or not, you are going to end up dead or in the hospital. That's why I said I'd probably just let it happen if it was an officer.
Prometheus
Master
You just shot one, the rest will scatter.
In the one and a million chance they don't? What does it say about their motives, advancing on a person who just shot someone else?
It is what it is.
You deal with the threat at hand, not the threat that may be.
In any case, sitting around arguing about moving with your window down in that situation is... suicidal. Drive off.... assuming you can.
I think it's a safe assumption others in that crowd would be armed... No thanks. I'd rather drive off and live than be involved in a shootout.
There are plenty of videos that show that when the bullets fly, almost 100% start fleeing. A handful, if that, of a large group will pull their own guns, while usually only one or two might actually pull triggers. There is a video of a gun going off in a St. Louis night club, and the entire crowd flees. Also, there is a difference between targeted people and random people who just happened to have a gun. I've seen a few gun fights were people will go at it, but even then, 99.99% never advance. Most are either behind cover shooting at random, and the others who can move are usually shooting, but moving towards an exit of some sort.
Gas stations to the west and north of my location have crowds like this all the time. However, gas stations in my suburban/rural area, and in even small towns and more rural areas don't have these crowds form in any sense of the way. Yes, it could always happen, but I would put the likelihood at about .01% given the physics involved (distance from population centers, underlying morals and values of the surrounding residents, number of people within walking distance, lack of concert or other venues that draw crowds, etc.). I do however agree that if one sees such a crowd of troublemakers, they would be best to avoid them. I think the cases where a crowd forms within seconds would be rare, and in such a case, do what you need to do. For the most part, one would be best to move along, and if all the gas stations in ones area is like this, then I would seriously consider moving out of that area all together, or sacrifice one or two meals out a month and use that money to drive an additional five or ten miles to a better gas station.
Ever drive down 38th street pin a summer night? Looks just like this. If it were me I wouldn't have stopped, honestly, because I know what happens when you're not of the same persuasion as the majority standing around wanting to price how "hard" they are. HOWEVER, if I were to suddenly be in a situation like that I would not hesitate to wrap the urbanite's arm in the seatbelt and egress rapidly to a safe distance from the crowd, at which point I would let said urbanite free to careen down what is almost certainly a busy street. Probably wouldn't bother calling the cops because they would take just as much time to get there as they would if I were getting beaten and left for dead.
Chicago maybe?
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