This is what $700,000,000 bought us?

[hornadylnl]

But honestly, where is the wrong in this? My son will likely play one sport if not two. I have no problem with paying to allow him to be able to play. Why should it be free?

Just like what you said about wanting to have a range next door to your house, but if your neighbor didn't want it on his land, then that was his right.

What if your neighbor doesn't have kids and doesn't ever plan to have them. Why should he pay the same as the person with 4 kids who all play sports?

We aren't in disagreement here. I think all players should pay for the cost of equipment, field maintenance, etc. I was talking about "donations" to the athletic boosters to buy influence for their kids.

 

[hornadylnl]

hornadylnl, you sir fall into the same category as my B.I.L. (a Steelers fan)you chastise, criticize and biotch about anything that relates to the Colts.

Yet you as a Patriot's fan and him as a Steeler's don't see the irony of your biotching, you see both these cites built new stadiums with taxpayer monies, both are open air stadiums, and yes both properties that those stadiums sit on, eminent domain was used to procure those lands. Those stadiums are used for football and open air concerts from late spring to early fall with as little as 30 dates total use. Lucas Oil has already been used more than 3 times as much in the 14 months it has been open than either one in that time frame. So it looks kike Indy is getting more bang for it's buck, and will continue to do so you many years to come.

Feel free to move to Patriot land where you can live in the land of the far left, your cost of living is 1.5 times higher and taxes are 3 times higher than here.

In case you think I'm serious, I'm not, just trying to put thing in perspective that it is like this in any town that has a pro or college sports team.

You still refuse to answer my question. Is your right to entertainment worth more than my right to property? That's a simple yes or no question. You continue to dodge it and try to wrongfully justify the trampling of others rights because you like the end result.

We always have this talk on here of INGO being family. Sorry, I don't call the few on here who want to strip me of my rights family.

 

[Benny]

 

[hornadylnl]

Just like Rush, I won't retire until everyone agrees with me.

 

[Benny]

Just like Rush, I won't retire until everyone agrees with me.

 

[Fletch]

hornadylnl, you sir fall into the same category as my B.I.L. (a Steelers fan)you chastise, criticize and biotch about anything that relates to the Colts.

Yet you as a Patriot's fan and him as a Steeler's don't see the irony of your biotching, you see both these cites built new stadiums with taxpayer monies, both are open air stadiums, and yes both properties that those stadiums sit on, eminent domain was used to procure those lands. Those stadiums are used for football and open air concerts from late spring to early fall with as little as 30 dates total use. Lucas Oil has already been used more than 3 times as much in the 14 months it has been open than either one in that time frame. So it looks kike Indy is getting more bang for it's buck, and will continue to do so you many years to come.

Feel free to move to Patriot land where you can live in the land of the far left, your cost of living is 1.5 times higher and taxes are 3 times higher than here.

In case you think I'm serious, I'm not, just trying to put thing in perspective that it is like this in any town that has a pro or college sports team.

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

 

[IndyParts]

That many horses kills a iPod :-)

 

[FordMan08]

I blame it all on Jim Harbaugh and Tony Saragoosa.

 

[hornadylnl]

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

This.

I'm only a Patriots fan because of their rivalry with the Colts. I can enjoy watching a good football game every now and then. I usually have it on Sunday but if the Colts aren't playing, I only watch about a quarter of the game. I'm up doing something or looking at a magazine, etc.

The NFL could disappear off the face of the earth tomorrow and I'd be happy. Maybe people would start thinking about those boring things that actually matter in life. You know, like stopping our government from taking away our freedoms.

 

[antdog/zook]

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

amen! i do like racing though, mostly dragracing!

all this reminds me of tony karitzis(spelling?) when he had enough getting screwed out of his property. marched guy around downtown with shotgun tied around his neck. anyone remember this? i was little but remember it on tv.

 

[theweakerbrother]

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

Yea, this one of the best posts in this entire thread. It is upsetting to see people take a game so seriously. Nothing like working with people who have bad Mondays because "their" team lost an "important" game on Sunday. Then they refer to the team as "we" as if they had a part in their win or loss. Sorry, bro... if you aren't on the field or sidelines, there is no we... unless you have a turd in your pocket.

 

[Benny]

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

I've never watched gay porn...Apparently you have if you can equate the two, so I'll just take you word for it.

Yea, this one of the best posts in this entire thread. It is upsetting to see people take a game so seriously. Nothing like working with people who have bad Mondays because "their" team lost an "important" game on Sunday. Then they refer to the team as "we" as if they had a part in their win or loss. Sorry, bro... if you aren't on the field or sidelines, there is no we... unless you have a turd in your pocket.

Yeah, I can definitely see how you think saying "we" when referring to a team is kinda lame; it is to an extent, but it's just second nature to talk like that when you are passionate about a team you really enjoy watching.

 

[Indy317]

Yea, this one of the best posts in this entire thread. It is upsetting to see people take a game so seriously. Nothing like working with people who have bad Mondays because "their" team lost an "important" game on Sunday. Then they refer to the team as "we" as if they had a part in their win or loss. Sorry, bro... if you aren't on the field or sidelines, there is no we... unless you have a turd in your pocket.

This is what happens when living a human life has become boring. Seriously, humans in industrialized countries, especially those like the US, have become bored with their lives. They pretty much do the same thing day in and day out. Remember, that just 100 years ago, vast numbers of Americans and others in the world had to cut wood to heat their homes (or they would die in the winter), cut wood to cook food (or they may die from starvation), and/or had to hunt for food (again, die of starvation). All these functions weren't things that happened over night, it took weeks/months of planning and hard work to prepare for the future.

Now we have millions of humans who get heat with the flick of a switch and as long as they have money, they can get food. Humans in industrialized countries have taken a lot of the hard work of living out of the equation. As such, folks really only have to find a job that pays an OK sum of money, put in 40-60 hours a week, and they can live the life of a king compared to people living in undeveloped countries.

I think this change in how we live life has a lot to do with the problems we now see: Affairs, having/raising kids out-of-wedlock, kids not having/needing two parents to raise them, people getting fixated on entertainment (pro-sports, movies, video games) to a point where they spend hours of their life engaged in such things...oh, also dump money, some a little, others a lot, into that entertainment. Eventually all the above require money from other people: Welfare to support the no-father in the picture kids, money to support the entertainment of others, etc.

This current utopia won't last forever. What we are seeing now is a massive push for all sorts of groups to nickle and dime the taxpayer. Simple logic will show that eventually it won't be worth it to be a taxpayer, and the younger generation will get this fact and just decide life is easier to be a load than do well in school, wake up at 5AM every morning to have to go to a job and do actual work, etc.. Dealing/working with college kids, I see what "group projects" have done to some of them. I have seen what "you can't do anything wrong" type logic has done to a few.

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

I'll take it out of the fanboy realm then. I hate football. I hate all professional sports. I think all you fans should pay your own damn way instead of taxing people like me to pay for your stupid hobby. This ain't about the Colts or the Patriots or the Steelers or the Buttboys for me. This is about MY money, MY property, and MY rights. Why should you get to take MY property and money so you can go watch a bunch of grown men in tight pants jump on each other? Why can't you just stay home and watch gay porn? Cuz it seems like pretty much the same thing to me.

+1 For this ^^^^!!!! I'm still pissed about the stupid stadium !

WTF was wrong with the Hoosier dome ?, NOTHING !

 

[Fletch]

I've never watched gay porn...Apparently you have if you can equate the two, so I'll just take you word for it.

LMAO nice comeback. My point was that these are two things I really don't want to see OR subsidize. And in my mind, there's little difference between "men in tight pants jumping on each other" and "men in no pants jumping on each other".

 

[antdog/zook]

+1 For this ^^^^!!!! I'm still pissed about the stupid stadium !

WTF was wrong with the Hoosier dome ?, NOTHING !

yes!