This is getting old

[GaDawg]

It seems like every other time I go purchase a firearm I get delayed. Twice this year so far. Last year I bought several guns no delay. What a joke. Earlier this year my stepdad sent me a pistol and the FFL told me it was delayed then a week later denied. I called the FBI or who ever they call and talked to a nice lady on the phone. She told me she couldn't tell me why I had been denied but she did listen to me. She said let me check on this. Before I left the parking lot the FFL called me and said something weird happened. I was like great what a warrant for my arrest he said no you are cleared. I went back and he told me he had never heard of anyone being delayed then approved. WHAT GIVES!!!!!!

 

[JoshuaW]

Do you use your social security number on the form? You can get a unique ID to prevent getting delayed as much.

 

[Classic]

Seems pretty un-American that they don't have to give a reason. How are we different from a dictatorship again?

 

[chizzle]

It seems like every other time I go purchase a firearm I get delayed. Twice this year so far. Last year I bought several guns no delay. What a joke. Earlier this year my stepdad sent me a pistol and the FFL told me it was delayed then a week later denied. I called the FBI or who ever they call and talked to a nice lady on the phone. She told me she couldn't tell me why I had been denied but she did listen to me. She said let me check on this. Before I left the parking lot the FFL called me and said something weird happened. I was like great what a warrant for my arrest he said no you are cleared. I went back and he told me he had never heard of anyone being delayed then approved. WHAT GIVES!!!!!!

Do you have a fairly common name (I.e. John Smith)? I have heard of folks that share the same name as a known felon in a similar geographic area having slower approval times if they don't use their SSN. I am sure some of the guys that work at local shops could chime in here with their personal experience to see if this is common.

 

[jcwit]

Seems pretty un-American that they don't have to give a reason. How are we different from a dictatorship again?

Well we live nothing like these folks in these countries.


Algeria: President Abdelaziz Bouteflika (1999-)
Angola: President José Eduardo dos Santos (1979-)
Azerbaijan: President Ilham Aliyev (2003-)
Bahrain: King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa (1999-)
Belarus: President Alexander Lukashenko (1994-) - eliminated round 1
Brunei: Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah (1967-)
Burkina Faso: President Blaise Compaoré (1987-)
Burma: President Thein Sein (2011-)
Cameroon: President Paul Biya (1975-)
Chad: President Idriss Déby (1990-) - eliminated round 6
People's Republic of China: President Hu Jintao (2002-)
Democratic Republic of Kongo: President Joseph Kabila (2001-)
Cuba: President Raúl Castro (2006-)
Egypt: Chairman Mohamed Hussein Tantawi (2011-)
Equatorial Guinea: President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo (1979-) - eliminated round 5
Eritrea: President Isaias Afewerki (1991-) - eliminated round 1
Gabon: President Ali Bongo Ondimba (2009-)
Gambia: President Yahya Jammeh (1994-)
Guinea-Bissau: Chairman Mamadu Ture Kuruma (2011-)
Iran: Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (1989-)
Kazakhstan: President Nursultan Nazarbayev (1990-)
Laos: President Choummaly Sayasone (2006-)
Madagascar: President of the High Transitional Authority Andry Rajoelina (2009-)
North Korea: Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un (2011-) - eliminated round 3
Oman: Sultan Qaboos bin Said al Said (1970-)
Qatar: Emir Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani (1995-)
Russia: President Vladimir Putin (2000-)
Rwanda: President Paul Kagame (2000-)
Saudi Arabia: King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud (1995-) - eliminated round 7
South Sudan: President Salva Kiir Mayardit (2005-)
Sudan: President Omar al-Bashir (1989-) - eliminated round 1
Swaziland: King Mswati III (1986-)
Syria: President Bashar al-Assad (2000-) - eliminated round 1
Tajikistan: President Emomalii Rahmon (1992-)
Togo: President Faure Gnassingbé (2005-)
Turkmenistan: Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow (2006-) - eliminated round 5
Uganda: President Yoweri Museveni (1986-)
Uzbekistan: President Islam Karimov (1990-) - eliminated round 1
Vietnam: General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong (2011-)
Zimbabwe: President Robert Mugabe (1980-) - eliminated round 4

They do live in a dictatorship

 

[HavokCycle]

um... so... the ATF.. not the FBI.. are overloaded from all the black friday sales, gun shows, and post-election sales that usually take place. its that simple.

 

[Classic]

Well we live nothing like these folks in these countries.


Algeria: President Abdelaziz Bouteflika (1999-)
Angola: President José Eduardo dos Santos (1979-)
Azerbaijan: President Ilham Aliyev (2003-)
Bahrain: King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa (1999-)
Belarus: President Alexander Lukashenko (1994-) - eliminated round 1
Brunei: Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah (1967-)
Burkina Faso: President Blaise Compaoré (1987-)
Burma: President Thein Sein (2011-)
Cameroon: President Paul Biya (1975-)
Chad: President Idriss Déby (1990-) - eliminated round 6
People's Republic of China: President Hu Jintao (2002-)
Democratic Republic of Kongo: President Joseph Kabila (2001-)
Cuba: President Raúl Castro (2006-)
Egypt: Chairman Mohamed Hussein Tantawi (2011-)
Equatorial Guinea: President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo (1979-) - eliminated round 5
Eritrea: President Isaias Afewerki (1991-) - eliminated round 1
Gabon: President Ali Bongo Ondimba (2009-)
Gambia: President Yahya Jammeh (1994-)
Guinea-Bissau: Chairman Mamadu Ture Kuruma (2011-)
Iran: Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (1989-)
Kazakhstan: President Nursultan Nazarbayev (1990-)
Laos: President Choummaly Sayasone (2006-)
Madagascar: President of the High Transitional Authority Andry Rajoelina (2009-)
North Korea: Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un (2011-) - eliminated round 3
Oman: Sultan Qaboos bin Said al Said (1970-)
Qatar: Emir Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani (1995-)
Russia: President Vladimir Putin (2000-)
Rwanda: President Paul Kagame (2000-)
Saudi Arabia: King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud (1995-) - eliminated round 7
South Sudan: President Salva Kiir Mayardit (2005-)
Sudan: President Omar al-Bashir (1989-) - eliminated round 1
Swaziland: King Mswati III (1986-)
Syria: President Bashar al-Assad (2000-) - eliminated round 1
Tajikistan: President Emomalii Rahmon (1992-)
Togo: President Faure Gnassingbé (2005-)
Turkmenistan: Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow (2006-) - eliminated round 5
Uganda: President Yoweri Museveni (1986-)
Uzbekistan: President Islam Karimov (1990-) - eliminated round 1
Vietnam: General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong (2011-)
Zimbabwe: President Robert Mugabe (1980-) - eliminated round 4

They do live in a dictatorship

Make the list as long as you like, I still think they owe you a reason for denial. It's way to easy for government agencies to hide behind "sensitive" or "classified" information. Hate to see us move in the direction of that list and we certainly are moving in that direction.

 

[VUPDblue]

it ain't that deep....you are not on a "list".
they won't give you the reason because they have no way to verify who they are giving that info to. they can't risk giving personal info out to anyone claiming to be you.

 

[jcwit]

Can't make the list any longer, that's all there is, currently.

In your opinion we may be heading in that direction, but we sure have a long way to go yet at this time.

Regarding the OP's problem, I'd guess its the name. But that is only a guess.

 

[Classic]

So if you ID yourself they'll give you the reason? I haven't had the problem so far but I haven't heard anyone being given a reason yet either. Could be I just haven't heard about it.

 

[Leo]

I have had a man delayed and then the NICS operator called back within a few minutes. It happens, and you are right, they refuse to give any reason.

 

[Bobby100]

I was delayed last sunday and every day i call the store they say they know nothing!!getting very upset.

 

[Classic]

Well gee, just identify yourself and they will give you the reason.

 

[GaDawg]

What kills me is I have LTCH!! Never questioned anything. One of the many things I miss about living in Georgia. If you had a carry license you walking pick a gun show license pay for gun walk out EASY

 

[shooter521]

Seems pretty un-American that they don't have to give a reason.

Really? You would want the FBI telling some random retail salesperson all about the stupid or nasty **** you might've done in your past in order to get flagged in the system?

Providing information on convictions, restraining orders, identity theft/confusion, etc. to a third party (the salesperson) would constitute an invasion of (your) privacy, so they don't do it. Likewise, as VUPDblue stated, they wouldn't provide it to the OP over the phone because they had no way of verifying who he was. That's why, when you appeal a NICS denial, you have to request it in writing, using the transaction number generated during the background check.

I went back and he told me he had never heard of anyone being delayed then approved.

This happens all the time. Did you mean "denied then approved"? That has happened, too, but it is not very common and it usually takes them longer to realize their error.

 

[GaDawg]

Really? You would want the FBI telling some random retail salesperson all about the stupid or nasty **** you might've done in your past in order to get flagged in the system?

Providing information on convictions, restraining orders, identity theft/confusion, etc. to a third party (the salesperson) would constitute an invasion of (your) privacy, so they don't do it. Likewise, as VUPDblue stated, they wouldn't provide it to the OP over the phone because they had no way of verifying who he was. That's why, when you appeal a NICS denial, you have to request it in writing, using the transaction number generated during the background check.



This happens all the time. Did you mean "denied then approved"? That has happened, too, but it is not very common and it usually takes them longer to realize their error.

Sorry I was delayed denied then after I called approved. Still never told me either way why the hassle.

 

[Lilboy1023]

Like stated a couple times I would guess it is a name problem. I haven't ran into any delays/problems any time I have bought a weapon. Sorry to hear about the problem for you.

 

[JoshuaW]

um... so... the ATF.. not the FBI.. are overloaded from all the black friday sales, gun shows, and post-election sales that usually take place. its that simple.

FBI operates NICS, not the ATF, so he was correct in saying FBI.

 

[Stang51d]

To find out why, you have to fill out some paperwork, then send it to them. I can't remember if it's online or us mail. Then you will get something in the mail in about 2 weeks telling you why. After that, more paper work if you want to protest it and that will take 6-9 months.

 

[partyboy6686]

I got my first DELAYED today. Pissed me off. But I have a very common First and Last name. I provided my SSN# but that didn't matter. I always get sent to farther review. Im waiting patiently for the LGS to call me. I sold all my guns over the past couple weeks and am gunless till they call me.