Thinking about an Smith and Wesson SD9

[Route 45]

Wasnt the sdve so close to glocks model 19 that glock filed a lawsuit against smith and wesson in the 90's?

That's unpossible. Completely and totally different designs. Like apples and oranges.

 

[Route 45]

Here is my SD9VE. It is equipped with a tactical light and lives in my big red tactical toolbox in my garage. I've put several hundred rounds through it, and I have never had an issue with it. The tactical light works fine and has constant beam and strobe functions. I think I got the light in a box of Cocoa Pebbles, but I don't really remember.

My SD9 is also equipped with tactical Ameriglo I-Dot night sights and a tactical nuclear warning slide plate for enhanced operation during garage recon patrols.

Here is a prairie dog that I took while on a hunting trip in Smyrna, GA. Popped him with a 124 grain Black Talon at about 75 yards. Took me 3 shots, as the first 2 glanced off of the windshield of the Kia Soul that he was driving.

 

[IndianaSoloMcfly]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqDb_5hs0v8

Impressive marksmanship

 

[mcapo]

Wasnt the sdve so close to glocks model 19 that glock filed a lawsuit against smith and wesson in the 90's?

That was the earlier Sigma (SW) series.

 

[Vigilant]

That was the earlier Sigma (SW) series.

The Smegma! What a waste of R&D funds!

 

[mcapo]

The Smegma! What a waste of R&D funds!

I always questioned why Glock sued S&W. Had they not; S&W might be bankrupt today after selling the Sigma line...and not developing the M&P.

 

[Bigtanker]

The 380 Sigma. What perfection!!

 

[mcapo]

I notice it says "Capable of firing".

 

[Vigilant]

I notice it says "Capable of firing".

Should read Capable of firing, maybe.

 

[mcapo]

Not the first time SW marketed a real winner...

Though - I'd buy one for the right price...

 

[jd4320t]

I said that there is not a world of difference. And there is not. If you can shoot well with a Glock, but can't hit anything with an SD9 or a Ruger 9E because of the trigger, then you are simply not a good shot. The trigger on my G21 is a bit different than my M&Ps. In fact, my M&Ps are a smidge different from each other. And it doesn't amount to an ant fart of difference when it comes to shooting them well.

I imagine that you are like my friend that just bought a Sig P229 Legion in 9mm. He goes on and on about the trigger on it. I handled it, and it does have a nice single action trigger. The DA trigger sucks, just like all Sigs that I've handled. It came with a coin. (LOL) I asked him to let me know the next time he goes shooting so that I can try it out. We go shooting together every once in a while, but I know he's dreading this next outing. You know why? Because I will shoot circles around him with my Ruger 9E. I've done it before with his P227. He just shakes his head. To really mess with him, I might even drop the $150 for a Hi-Point before we go shooting next time. I'll get a .40 for more recoil, just to make it somewhat fair.

Funny thing about my sub-par SD9VE. I don't have any brass-to-face problems with it, no weak ejection issues, and the slide has never fallen off while shooting.

Still waiting on your valuable input on that restaurant that you've never been to. Make it a steak house. You can review the fish if you'd like.

Pride of ownership can be a bad thing especially when it comes to guns. I had a couple xd's back in the day and quickly realized I'd made the wrong choice and never looked back. Rock on with your sub-par Glock wannabes. I'd try to buy them all if I were you.

I love it when Glock haters can't help but try and spread their hate and it's even better when they're praising a gun that was made to be like a Glock in every possible legal way.


M&P 9's can be had new for less than $400. I just saw it today at Classic Firearms.

 

[Itchytriggerfinger]

$244 with code MDW today. Free shipping.

https://www.brownells.com/firearms/...=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine

 

[WebSnyper]

The Smegma! What a waste of R&D funds!

I don't think they wasted any R&D funds on the Sigma (not the SD's as other folks also indicated) besides buying a Glock and taking it apart and maybe taking some pictures. Now legal funds fighting patent infringement, etc, that was a different aspect.

That said, the S&W M&P line has come on very strong and they are doing some good things with those.

 

[Route 45]

I also have a Glock 21 and several M&Ps. Truth be told, there is not a world of difference between the platforms.

I look forward to your review of a restaurant that you've never been to.

Pride of ownership can be a bad thing especially when it comes to guns......I love it when Glock haters can't help but try and spread their hate and it's even better when they're praising a gun that was made to be like a Glock in every possible legal way.

M&P 9's can be had new for less than $400. I just saw it today at Classic Firearms.

Glock hater? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? This is my nightstand gun.

OP is clearly looking for a truck gun between $200 - $300, and your response is "hurr-durr, M&Ps are $400."

If pride of ownership is such a bad thing, then why are you whining about Glock haters "spreading hate?"

 

[Itchytriggerfinger]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Route 45 again.

I really wanted to give you some kudos for the "hurr-durr" comment.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Jesus. Sorry I snarked to begin with.

Gotta go. The stench of estrogen is choking me.

 

[jd4320t]

Glock hater? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? This is my nightstand gun.

OP is clearly looking for a truck gun between $200 - $300, and your response is "hurr-durr, M&Ps are $400."

If pride of ownership is such a bad thing, then why are you whining about Glock haters "spreading hate?"

Enjoy your sub par guns with HUNDREDS of rounds through them. They and you are clearly the master of all things firearms.

 

[Route 45]

Enjoy your sub par guns with HUNDREDS of rounds through them. They and you are clearly the master of all things firearms.

 

[1stLast&Always]

+1 to OP request to buying one. Buy one. I carry mine every day and keep it locked in car while at work. Comes back to me at end of shift for drive home. Price: Great. Looks: Great to me, I like 2 tone. Function: Great, way north of thousand rounds through mine with no FTF, FTE. I use my own handloads, factory defense loads and any cheap ammo, they all run. I have keyholed with this at 7 yards, and ran my first defensive HG class with it without any issues. Ergonomics: To me, way better than Glock. Mag release and slide stop more suitable for my small hands. Trigger: pretty bad, but a non issue to me. Found the M&P 1.0 triggers just as mushy and crap reset. If you want Smith's better trigger, go 2.0. Upgrades: Apex sells kit for this but reviews indicate not much better. Both trigger pieces part cost alone merits buying higher end gun (like 2.0).
Sights: Mine wears Ameriglo I Dot at Route 45's suggestion and I love it. Instructor used my target as example in gun handling class so I felt my cheap gun pride then.
Also, the grip is tough, kind of chewy at times, so I use "Ranger bands" for that and def improves grip when wet. Maintenance:
Simple take down and clean.

Philosophy on it being too cheap: I'm never going to be part of the school that touts spending the most money. Get the job done first. If it does the job and adds objective value that can be documented, then for a bargain price, you have something extra (Smith calls this "Value Enhanced", hence SD9VE). Further, if you would like to demonstrate or justify (maybe rationalize) an increase in performance attributable to the increased expense, great. Cheap or expensive, they both hit the spot they're supposed to under stress. That said I also crave some high dollar (and slightly more accurate perhaps) firearms but follow above precept...
I've seen shooters with cheap guns outshoot shooters with expensive ones and I've seen determined, trained amateurs outrace pros too.

Purpose: You want a "truck gun"? Get this one. It is an outstanding bargain gun that does the job (the SD stands for self defense). The added value is realized by proper technique and training, not by the size of your wallet. I'd be pissed if anyone took mine. Would I prefer an M&P 2.0, HK or a Sig? Sure! Do I need one for what you mention? Nope!