Disposable Heart
Grandmaster
I wouldnt necessarily go that far. As far as the Midwest goes, no one gives aid because the US never asks for it (not to mention the vast majority of other nations wouldnt do it). Technically, that action threatens US soveignty in the eyes of the government and the citizens. I wish folks would understand that America would be physically invaded ever before the "big bad UN" does anything. The UN is a popular scapegoat for many radio talk shows as it is big, multinational, and has SOME power. The US hasnt paid any of it's UN dues and I dont imagine them doing it anytime soon. Why? Soveriegnty. America will not be a puppet for a multinational group like "UN".
Soveriengty is our friend. Incidentally, the money going to terrorists knows no bounds, not even political alignment.
Obama money: Politicians of any type take money from the rich. That has NEVER changed and NEVER will. That is something that can be counted on. Also, politicians flip flopping or making actions contrary to their original postings are NOT new and while its of a concern, I dont get in a fluff about it because EVERYONE changes their views. Obama seems more poll oriented, so he is going to win the middle as well as try to win the outer ends of the spectrum.
Clinging: Words, only words. I agree that the word isnt necessarily the best. I do agree with Sphynx that people tend to turn to what they think is the best in "hard times". Government, religion, racism, booze, family are all things held in high regard when the chips are down and things are going down. Nothing new.
Socialism: Apt label for anything that people dont like. They will spout off definitions of Socialism and compare it to the "left's" view. I, for one, am highly in favor of universal health care. Realistically, what is so bad about it? More taxes? Stop buying so much frivolous things as you can now cover your ENTIRE family no problem with good health care. Decreased health coverage? Look at Canada; universal care there and it's top notch. What about the doctors, they wont make as much and will make more mistakes? Not really, once again, most of the universal situations have great health care. Granted a pure socialist government is a bad thing but only as ALL the socialist governments (with only a few now) up until now have been person centered, not party centered. When one man is given all the power, it turns out bad. In general though, people fear what may have even .5% of power over them.
Personally, I also dont see a threat about a "poverty" bill being put into action. A failing economy, sluggish spending and taxing, and soveriegnty in the US will put an end to that quickly. This is simply fearing something that will not come about and if it does, last only a quick second. I tend to look at facts, not "columns" and not "talk radio". Those mostly use opinion papers as fact to create a panic amoung people like us and usually to boost money into one industry: Guns. Ever look around at a gunshow? Lots of things about selling gold or selling hicap mags before the government takes them. I will never give my money to any seller that has already taken a defeatist attitude in this matter. There is no AWB2 yet, so lets keep focused and keep it from happening. Same situation with all politics.
Sphynx: I agree with a few things that you say. I am not particularly for either candidate, but unfortunately, the past few elections havent been much of one side or the other anyways. Obama's social programs arent terrible in my opinion, but his second amend and personal concepts dont sit well with me. I am not hot to trot about McCain, but I havent began to know either candidate well enough to vote for either.
Anyways, I am glad to see you speak your mind and FREELY so.
I am out of this arguement. Back to the regularly scheduled program (aka, The High Road, more gun talk, less politics). BTW: How about some voting record posts, instead of the usual picture of an Obama supporter then ridiculing them. Its politics not a school yard. Youre not going to make anyone cry, just embolden their resolve.
