The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[MRockwell]

This is more on the infrastructure than the vehicles:

US Senate Hears of Problems with Electric Vehicles

In the US Senate Environmental Cmte, a trucking association member shares his knowledge of the problem with pushing electric vehicles, which includes their w...

www.youtube.com

 

[Ingomike]

A friend in the truck business told me that a company in California has to buy $100,000+ EV heavy truck that needs 480v charging but the power company will not have 480v to run the chargers so they then can apply for. $9000 permit to buy or use an ICE truck.

They cannot use an ICE truck without buying the EV and the permit per truck…

 

[MCgrease08]

A friend in the truck business told me that a company in California has to buy $100,000+ EV heavy truck that needs 480v charging but the power company will not have 480v to run the chargers so they then can apply for. $9000 permit to buy or use an ICE truck.

They cannot use an ICE truck without buying the EV and the permit per truck…

There are two pieces of legislation driving this in California; one is the Advanced Clean Truck (ACT) rule aimed at manufacturers and the other is the Advanced Clean Fleet (ACF) rule aimed at fleets.

ACT mandates that a certain percentage of trucks built by OEMs need to be electric. The ACF mandates that a certain percentage of trucks in a fleet of a certain size must be EVs. Neither of these rules take into consideration whether end users actually want these trucks, or if there is infrastructure in place to support them.

So basically truck makers are forced to build EVs. Fleets are forced to buy them, then they sit on the fence because there is no way to charge them.

The commercial transportation industry has been thrown into turmoil over this, in so many ways. I heard a story of a fleet that bought 18 EV semis and then put chargers in place while waiting for the trucks to be built. By the time they took delivery of the trucks, the chargers were obsolete and weren't compatible with the trucks. They all had to be ripped out.

Charging for 10 semis (about 1 Mw each) requires the same amount of electricity as it takes to power 8,000 homes. The chargers cost about 1.5x the cost of the truck, and the trucks cost at least $500,000 each.

Basically a fleet needs to lay out about $75,000,000 just to move 50 trucks to EVs. It's ridiculous.

 

[Ingomike]

Energy Secretary Under Investigation for Disastrous Electric Vehicle Road Trip

townhall.com

 

[JCSR]

None of the eight electric buses in its fleet are running, and the company that made them went bankrupt.

Jackson Buys 8 Electric Buses For Transit… | Cowboy State Daily

A transit system run by the town of Jackson and Teton County set out to replace its diesel buses with electric, but none of the eight electric buses in…

cowboystatedaily.com

 

[Route 45]

EV = Tesla
All the rest are clowns.

 

[Ingomike]

Electric bus company that made POTATUS "look good" goes...well...BUSt

hotair.com

 

[actaeon277]

Electric bus company that made POTATUS "look good" goes...well...BUSt

hotair.com

A government supported business fails.


I find that hard to believe.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Ironic.

 

[bwframe]

Tesla's Mega 98-Supercharger Location Runs In Part On A Diesel Generator​

Tesla's Mega 98-Supercharger Location Runs In Part On A Diesel Generator: Report

Lauded as the largest bank of EV chargers in the world, the Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger has a dirty secret

jalopnik.com

Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators

The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar can’t provide — diesel generators.

cowboystatedaily.com

 

[Born2vette]

$67 Billion of Rare Minerals Is Buried Under One of the World’s Biggest Carbon Sinks

A fight is brewing in Canada about how, or whether, to dig out materials essential for EV batteries that lie deep beneath vast peat bogs.

www.wsj.com

 

[Rookie]

'We will place the biggest hydrogen bus order in US history because battery-electric can't do the job'

Santa Cruz Metro in California tested an electric bus, but it struggled with the hilly terrain, a senior official explains

www.hydrogeninsight.com

 

[Route 45]

The $7500 EV tax credit available on some models will effectively be an upfront $7500 rebate, starting January 1, 2024.

This will boost Tesla.

Scumbag dealers for other brands that actually make a viable EV will, of course, jack the prices up $7500 or include a "market adjustment" to steal some or all of the credit.

U.S. Treasury details EV tax credit rebate rules

The U.S. Treasury Department on Friday issued new guidance on how a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit can be used as a point-of-sale rebate starting in January.

www.reuters.com

 

[jamil]

The $7500 EV tax credit available on some models will effectively be an upfront $7500 rebate, starting January 1, 2024.

This will boost Tesla.

Scumbag dealers for other brands that actually make a viable EV will, of course, jack the prices up $7500 or include a "market adjustment" to steal some or all of the credit.

U.S. Treasury details EV tax credit rebate rules

The U.S. Treasury Department on Friday issued new guidance on how a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit can be used as a point-of-sale rebate starting in January.

www.reuters.com

That’s what Jeep did with the Wrangler plug in hybrid. Used to be the plugin hybrid after the rebates was the cheapest way to get a Rubicon. Then Jeep decided to raise the price of the plug in hybrid version by about $7500. ****ers. That was even back when you had to wait for the rebate.

 

[Route 45]

That’s what Jeep did with the Wrangler plug in hybrid. Used to be the plugin hybrid after the rebates was the cheapest way to get a Rubicon. Then Jeep decided to raise the price of the plug in hybrid version by about $7500. ****ers. That was even back when you had to wait for the rebate.

Stellantis may be the biggest scumbags of the Big 3, and that’s saying something.

 

[jamil]

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Is it just me, or does this guy remind anyone else of Dennis Hopper?

 

[jamil]

No. Scotty is way more dynamic.

 

[Route 45]

No. Scotty is way more dynamic.

He’s a clickbait idiot. Annoying as hell, to boot.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

No. Scotty is way more dynamic.

Oh, I'm just talking strictly looks. I don't usually watch his videos (too long).