The Official Status Update Thread: Part 30 - Gleaming the Cube

[Scutter01]

It gets better. The software uses default passwords and there's no way to change them. WTF? Seriously, who designs software in the 21st century that not only has no security, but won't work if there's any other security in place to protect it?!

 

[Westside]

Morning Youngin! Did you have fun this weekend?

Yeah it was fun. It was also very much a gut check. Got to hang out with OBV8 both days and met esrice on sunday.

 

[Westside]

Ok Good work DK. I just can't call you "daddy" sorry aint going to happen.

 

[Westside]

It gets better. The software uses default passwords and there's no way to change them. WTF? Seriously, who designs software in the 21st century that not only has no security, but won't work if there's any other security in place to protect it?!

This isn't a Microsoft product is it?

 

[Harry2110]

A bunch, the concrete will be dry this evening, I plan to see if it will hold 280lbs, me!

That could be a good way of warming up in winter

 

[Westside]

Oh and I don't like the new avatar rayne.

 

[OneBadV8]

Yeah it was fun. It was also very much a gut check. Got to hang out with OBV8 both days and met esrice on sunday.

You meant "gut check", right?

 

[Harry2110]

It gets better. The software uses default passwords and there's no way to change them. WTF? Seriously, who designs software in the 21st century that not only has no security, but won't work if there's any other security in place to protect it?!

are you sure this isnt from the 20th and just still in production as I have seen it happen

 

[OneBadV8]

This isn't a Microsoft product is it?

Sounds more like a Linux app created by a hack programmer who thinks they know more than they do.

 

[Harry2110]

Oh and I don't like the new avatar rayne.

same here wheres the cute fuzzy gone

 

[Westside]

You meant "gut check", right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

[Scutter01]

This isn't a Microsoft product is it?

No. Say what you want about Microsoft, but they at least have security in mind. They may or may not be good at it, but they're at least trying. This is industrial software. The entire field is super scary. It's usually developed by companies that don't specialize in software and operated by people who can't spell "computer". That mean if you put anything in the way of them pushing the shiny button that says "Do all my work", then they can't figure out how to use it. Seriously, if you ever look at the command and control software being used in manufacturing, you wouldn't be able to go to sleep at night. I'm, frankly, astonished that every single manufacturer in the country hasn't been 0wn3d by every hacker out there.

 

[Rayne]

Oh and I don't like the new avatar rayne.

Yeah, I'm hearing that from a lot of people. But it reminds me of someone I very much.

 

[Westside]

Sounds more like a Linux app created by a hack programmer who thinks they know more than they do.

maybe.

And that wasn't directed at you.

 

[DaKruiser]

Ok Good work DK. I just can't call you "daddy" sorry aint going to happen.

that's just fine with me!

That could be a good way of warming up in winter

 

[Westside]

No. Say what you want about Microsoft, but they at least have security in mind. They may or may not be good at it, but they're at least trying. This is industrial software. The entire field is super scary. It's usually developed by companies that don't specialize in software and operated by people who can't spell "computer". That mean if you put anything in the way of them pushing the shiny button that says "Do all my work", then they can't figure out how to use it. Seriously, if you ever look at the command and control software being used in manufacturing, you wouldn't be able to go to sleep at night. I'm, frankly, astonished that every single manufacturer in the country hasn't been 0wn3d by every hacker out there.

That is true.

I write custom control software using PLC all the time. It's a lot harder than "standard" programing. because it monitors everything all the time and is not sequential like a regular program. It is two completely different mindsets to program in, and people who don't think it all through can make it hard and complicated very quickly.

 

[DaKruiser]

No. Say what you want about Microsoft, but they at least have security in mind. They may or may not be good at it, but they're at least trying. This is industrial software. The entire field is super scary. It's usually developed by companies that don't specialize in software and operated by people who can't spell "computer". That mean if you put anything in the way of them pushing the shiny button that says "Do all my work", then they can't figure out how to use it. Seriously, if you ever look at the command and control software being used in manufacturing, you wouldn't be able to go to sleep at night. I'm, frankly, astonished that every single manufacturer in the country hasn't been 0wn3d by every hacker out there.

This all sounds very familiar! Some of the stuff I see around here is silly!

 

[Scutter01]

I write custom control software using PLC all the time.

Then you have to know exactly what I'm talking about. I see "PLC" and to me, the acronym stands for "Buffer-Overflow Exploit".

 

[Rayne]

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Hey GBuck have you seen this?

 

[OneBadV8]

That is true.

I write custom control software using PLC all the time. It's a lot harder than "standard" programing. because it monitors everything all the time and is not sequential like a regular program. It is two completely different mindsets to program in, and people who don't think it all through can make it hard and complicated very quickly.

Programs are sequential?

Besides "Hello World" I haven't written anything that was sequential in a long long long time.