The Insane "Social Justice" Thread II

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    printcraft

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    https://populist.media/2018/10/07/o...nt-of-intent-young-feminist-throws-life-away/

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    actaeon277

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    This whole right versus left political violence debate (in the U.S.) seems a little odd. Both sides have their nut jobs.

    There is a difference though, as I am currently observing it.

    On the right we have ultra right nut jobs who do horrible violent things. I mean we can name names....at least 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years. 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years...maybe 10 or 12, I'll be generous. However, when the ultra right whackos gets violent, they get violent. People die.
    - No one claims them.
    - No one supports them.
    - No one tries to make us understand their perspective.
    - No one makes excuses for them
    - Every conservative wants them prosecuted, and executed if appropriate.
    - They are only "right" because they are labeled that way and sometimes label themselves that way. They are not part of the greater conservative community.

    On the left, the violence takes forms like rioting, physical attacks on people they don't agree with. Burning things, smashing things, etc. So far in the Trump era, no fatalities that I am aware of. Not surprising though, they are millenials and younger. Finishing things, accomplishing goals- that sounds too much like work. Also, we can't name their names. There are too many.
    - The left refuses to condemn them.
    - The left encourages them.
    - The left actively supports them.
    - The left explains tries to explain why they are so angry.
    - The left makes excuses for them.
    - The left proudly claims them because they are an integral branch of the left. They are the left.

    So, this debate about left versus right violence.

    The violence on the right is rejected by essentially everyone on the right except for the people doing the violence. 99.9999999999999999999999% of the right would fight the violent people if they knew about it ahead of time, not join them.

    What's the percentage of the left who would stand up and confront the violence on their side?

    :yesway:
     

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    Let me rewrite that for him.

    "I did not mean to offend by quoting Churchill, but seriously, if you're offended by Churchill quotes, maybe you should consider ****ing all the way off. Because Churchill is the primary reason Nazi Germany didn't conquer Great Brittan, because he OPPOSED NAZIS. It seems that perhaps you're offended by Churchill quotes BECAUSE YOU'RE A ****ING NAZI. My point was that we need to come together as one nation, but we can't do that when you allow yourselves to be offended by the words of a hero WHO FOUGHT ****ING LITERAL REAL ASS NAZIS. We're all Americans, and that should transcend partisan politics, but you don't even like America. And that's why you should consider ****ing all the way off."

    Brilliant rewrite!
     

    rhino

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    This whole right versus left political violence debate (in the U.S.) seems a little odd. Both sides have their nut jobs.

    There is a difference though, as I am currently observing it.

    On the right we have ultra right nut jobs who do horrible violent things. I mean we can name names....at least 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years. 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years...maybe 10 or 12, I'll be generous. However, when the ultra right whackos gets violent, they get violent. People die.
    - No one claims them.
    - No one supports them.
    - No one tries to make us understand their perspective.
    - No one makes excuses for them
    - Every conservative wants them prosecuted, and executed if appropriate.
    - They are only "right" because they are labeled that way and sometimes label themselves that way. They are not part of the greater conservative community.

    On the left, the violence takes forms like rioting, physical attacks on people they don't agree with. Burning things, smashing things, etc. So far in the Trump era, no fatalities that I am aware of. Not surprising though, they are millenials and younger. Finishing things, accomplishing goals- that sounds too much like work. Also, we can't name their names. There are too many.
    - The left refuses to condemn them.
    - The left encourages them.
    - The left actively supports them.
    - The left explains tries to explain why they are so angry.
    - The left makes excuses for them.
    - The left proudly claims them because they are an integral branch of the left. They are the left.

    So, this debate about left versus right violence.

    The violence on the right is rejected by essentially everyone on the right except for the people doing the violence. 99.9999999999999999999999% of the right would fight the violent people if they knew about it ahead of time, not join them.

    What's the percentage of the left who would stand up and confront the violence on their side?

    :yesway:
     

    jamil

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    This whole right versus left political violence debate (in the U.S.) seems a little odd. Both sides have their nut jobs.

    There is a difference though, as I am currently observing it.

    On the right we have ultra right nut jobs who do horrible violent things. I mean we can name names....at least 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years. 7 or 8 over the last 20+ years...maybe 10 or 12, I'll be generous. However, when the ultra right whackos gets violent, they get violent. People die.
    - No one claims them.
    - No one supports them.
    - No one tries to make us understand their perspective.
    - No one makes excuses for them
    - Every conservative wants them prosecuted, and executed if appropriate.
    - They are only "right" because they are labeled that way and sometimes label themselves that way. They are not part of the greater conservative community.

    On the left, the violence takes forms like rioting, physical attacks on people they don't agree with. Burning things, smashing things, etc. So far in the Trump era, no fatalities that I am aware of. Not surprising though, they are millenials and younger. Finishing things, accomplishing goals- that sounds too much like work. Also, we can't name their names. There are too many.
    - The left refuses to condemn them.
    - The left encourages them.
    - The left actively supports them.
    - The left explains tries to explain why they are so angry.
    - The left makes excuses for them.
    - The left proudly claims them because they are an integral branch of the left. They are the left.

    So, this debate about left versus right violence.

    The violence on the right is rejected by essentially everyone on the right except for the people doing the violence. 99.9999999999999999999999% of the right would fight the violent people if they knew about it ahead of time, not join them.

    What's the percentage of the left who would stand up and confront the violence on their side?
    I would add that there have been some mass shootings by leftists. Crazy dude shoots at Senators playing baseball. Luckily good guy with gun stopped him in time.
     

    HoughMade

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    That's unfortunate. Had someone like me used the exact same words 10 years ago, I think the outcome would have been different.

    Unfortunately, I'm looking at this as a lawyer.

    "Whose [sic] gonna take one for the team"- She is not threatening to kill him. In fact, she is specifically stating that she is not, but wishing someone else would. Wishing someone would be killed is not a crime. If there is more, then maybe. I radio host referred to judges and that "they need to die", and then that in combination with posting maps of the federal building and pointing out where certain security measures were garnered an indictment, but no conviction yet- 2 hung juries. Sad to say- it was a gun rights guy going after federal judges who upheld a gun ban.
     
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