The Hillary Clinton’s Private E-mail thread

[BogWalker]

Ex-staffer who set up Clinton's private email server fails to appear before House Oversight Committee

Looks like somebody is allergic to bullets to the back of the head.

 

[printcraft]

Ex-staffer who set up Clinton's private email server fails to appear before House Oversight Committee

Hard to show up when you shoot yourself in the back of the head twice.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

VIDEO: Hillary server workers plead Fifth 11 times before Congress - in 10 minutes - The American MirrorThe American Mirror

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Cooper just admitted he had complete access to Hillary's server and had no security clearance

 

[printcraft]

Cooper just admitted he had complete access to Hillary's server and had no security clearance

Good thing nothing classified went through there then. Can you just imagine it that had happened?!

 

[Alpo]

Confidential! Confidential! Confidential!

To: SecState
From: DoD, CincPacFlt

Subj: Suggested Far East Itinerary

Hey Hill. Awesome food at Jambahlah's in Bali. 2 for 1 banana daquiri's as well. See you there!


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Unfortunately, this is the state of secrecy for many confidential emails. Is the SecState or CincNavFlt's itinerary secret? Or should it be? Yeah, maybe. But, maybe not.

 

[printcraft]

Confidential! Confidential! Confidential!

To: SecState
From: DoD, CincPacFlt

Subj: Suggested Far East Itinerary

Hey Hill. Awesome food at Jambahlah's in Bali. 2 for 1 banana daquiri's as well. See you there!


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Unfortunately, this is the state of secrecy for many confidential emails. Is the SecState or CincNavFlt's itinerary secret? Or should it be? Yeah, maybe. But, maybe not.

Yep, during her entire tenure as secretary of state she never sent or received 1 single classified or secret email through one of her 13 known blackberries or various computers.
NONE
Simply amazing! How did she get anything done! Awesomesauce!

 

[pudly]

Cooper just admitted he had complete access to Hillary's server and had no security clearance

Somehow Cooper forgot to take the fifth?

 

[Alpo]

Yep, during her entire tenure as secretary of state she never sent or received 1 single classified or secret email through one of her 13 known blackberries or various computers.
NONE
Simply amazing! How did she get anything done! Awesomesauce!

Having had a high security clearance in the past, it is my observation that the government overclassifies almost everything. Bureaucrats classify some awfully routine and boring things.

 

[jamil]

Having had a high security clearance in the past, it is my observation that the government overclassifies almost everything. Bureaucrats classify some awfully routine and boring things.

That's not an excuse for Hillary if it's not an excuse for everyone else held to standards.

 

[printcraft]

Having had a high security clearance in the past, it is my observation that the government overclassifies almost everything. Bureaucrats classify some awfully routine and boring things.

So..... if we allow for the sake of argument that the majority were bull**** over classification.... that somehow lets her off the hook for the ones that were legitimately classified?
Or are you arguing that nothing the Secretary of State does or interacts with should be considered classified access?

 

[Alpo]

Oh, I'm not "letting her off the hook". I'm making an observation about the bureaucracy. We overclassify information because we don't want anyone to have to think.

You can push your agenda all you wish. I just don't think banana daquiris represent state secrets. When everything becomes a matter of national security, it loses its meaning.

 

[printcraft]

Oh, I'm not "letting her off the hook". I'm making an observation about the bureaucracy. We overclassify information because we don't want anyone to have to think.

You can push your agenda all you wish. I just don't think banana daquiris represent state secrets. When everything becomes a matter of national security, it loses its meaning.

It's not just my agenda, it should be your agenda, and everybody else's agenda as well. It effects you.
It still has meaning ... BUT if we allow people like her to get away with it, like oh I don't know... lying to Congress and the American people without consequence then the rule of law breaks down completely.
If there are no consequences for divulging secrets why was Petraus convicted? Why is Snowden on a hit list?

 

[Alpo]

Show me where she put this country at risk by having a confidential document on her iPhone. Just one. Show me.

If you say she destroyed lots of emails, I'll also remind you that the Bush administration did the same thing. Not all information is important to be kept in an ordered state of electrons. Plus, if there is an important document that she destroyed SOMEONE ELSE still has it, don't they?

I think her treatment of emails shows a cavalier attitude toward security. Elitism. But, I don't necessarily think it is criminal for the reasons I described above: overclassification.

Now, I'll kindly apologize if you show me ONE document that is important to national security. And no, I don't think embarrassing memos about Angela Merkel's GERD problems and bad gas is a national secret.

 

[printcraft]

Show me where she put this country at risk by having a confidential document on her iPhone. Just one. Show me.

If you say she destroyed lots of emails, I'll also remind you that the Bush administration did the same thing. Not all information is important to be kept in an ordered state of electrons. Plus, if there is an important document that she destroyed SOMEONE ELSE still has it, don't they?

I think her treatment of emails shows a cavalier attitude toward security. Elitism. But, I don't necessarily think it is criminal for the reasons I described above: overclassification.

Now, I'll kindly apologize if you show me ONE document that is important to national security. And no, I don't think embarrassing memos about Angela Merkel's GERD problems and bad gas is a national secret.

Dude. It's not a part of public record because all of those have beed REDACTED!
Hell, even the FBI couldn't disclose because they couldn't get into them with approval from the issuing agency because their clearance wasn't HIGH ENOUGH.
If they were not secret why can they NOT be disclosed?
As far as to what implication she damaged national security? Really? Why have anything classified?
Show me where the document is that PROVES her hacked emails DIDN'T result in Benghazi for starters. I know you couldn't find that if you tried.

 

[Alpo]

Benghaaaaaaazzzzziiiiii. 8 committees couldn't prove your assertion. Please contact them for further info.

We saw some of the stuff that came out in Wikileaks from other government officials. They were, for the most part, petty gossip. The government classifies that stuff so we don't think they are idiots. Guess what? We KNOW they are idiots!

 

[printcraft]

Benghaaaaaaazzzzziiiiii. 8 committees couldn't prove your assertion. Please contact them for further info.

We saw some of the stuff that came out in Wikileaks from other government officials. They were, for the most part, petty gossip. The government classifies that stuff so we don't think they are idiots. Guess what? We KNOW they are idiots!

Why couldn't the info be disclosed? If it was classified above the FBI directors level don't you think it "might" be pretty bad if it got out?

hitlary lied to you.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Benghaaaaaaazzzzziiiiii. 8 committees couldn't prove your assertion. Please contact them for further info.

We saw some of the stuff that came out in Wikileaks from other government officials. They were, for the most part, petty gossip. The government classifies that stuff so we don't think they are idiots. Guess what? We KNOW they are idiots!

Perhaps not, but we CAN prove that Hillary destroyed evidence that would be necessary for determining the validity of the assertions in question. Are you telling us that you consider the destruction of evidence of potential wrong-doing (above and beyond the destruction itself) is acceptable in your reckoning?

 

[printcraft]

Perhaps not, but we CAN prove that Hillary destroyed evidence that would be necessary for determining the validity of the assertions in question. Are you telling us that you consider the destruction of evidence of potential wrong-doing (above and beyond the destruction itself) is acceptable in your reckoning?

Well, its just about yoga farts so no harm no foul right!?

 

[Alpo]

Look. I don't like Hillary, but I tend to be rational about these things. Not every email needs to be classified. EVERYONE should destroy records from time to time. You, me, Bush (who did), Hillary, etc. Should we be required to save all emails in government? I really don't think so. Should there be a law requiring all this documentation? NO.

I don't think Nixon should have turned over the tapes. I'll go back that far. It's crazy what we do. We should have an absolute right to privacy. Now, I'm sure you'll mention that it's important to cast sunshine on the deals cut by congress. Well, we don't. What happens with lobbyists, constituents, other legislators, etc. are rarely fully documented, if at all.

Why am I the one defending the right to privacy. YOU guys are republicans. But, Patriot Act. I forgot.