The FBI came after my dad today

[The Meach]

My dad is (was) a holder of a federal handgun/firearms permit. (the cool one that lets you carry in federal buildings/airplanes/...everywhere) They are issued to some members of the military/federal LEs/and private security firms. My dad got the lifetime for some of the work he did in the air force and was able to keep it after he got out.

Well today two FBI agents showed up to his desk at work and informed him that by executive order his and all retired/ex military member's federal permits are revoked.

 

[ATM]

I guess lifetimes just aren't what they used to be.

 

[SavageEagle]

That's aweful. It's also a sign of things to come.

On Guard.

 

[Lucas156]

Thats funny. So now Obamas minions just walk up and tell you what you can and can't do without documentation. Commies

 

[CarmelHP]

The ATF must have been lying:

(A2) Does the Federal Government issue a license or permit to carry a concealed weapon? [Back]
No. Neither ATF nor any other Federal agency issues such a permit or license. Carrying permits may be issued by a State or local government.


He didn't happen to make a photocopy?

 

[AFA1CY]

Time to call your congress-person!

 

[MACHINEGUN]

 

[Vigilant]

You sure about this whole Fed carry permit thingy?

 

[MACHINEGUN]

 

[The Meach]

The ATF must have been lying:

(A2) Does the Federal Government issue a license or permit to carry a concealed weapon? [Back]
No. Neither ATF nor any other Federal agency issues such a permit or license. Carrying permits may be issued by a State or local government.


He didn't happen to make a photocopy?

They stoped making them a while back and went with a per agency ID system. But all the folks who already had the lifetimes were grandfathered in.

well untill today.

My dad isn't to pissed he lost the permit. He's pissed that to armed thugs were sent to his place of employment to do it.

 

[cubby]

The ATF must have been lying:

(A2) Does the Federal Government issue a license or permit to carry a concealed weapon? [Back]
No. Neither ATF nor any other Federal agency issues such a permit or license. Carrying permits may be issued by a State or local government.


He didn't happen to make a photocopy?

is/was he an air marshall? i have never heard of a universal permit, issued by the g'ment, like that. not to say there ISN'T.

i was under the impression AMs where/are the only ones aboard aircrafts who could carry. unless the airline saw fit to arm their pilots (a smart move.... but a dumb world.).

if you can't divulge the info, i understand.

 

[Roadie]

This is what our tax dollars are being used for?? oy, I guess I shouldn't be shocked, eh?

Is this somehow related?
Director of ATF May Now Deny, Suspend, or Revoke Federal Firearms Licenses

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Department of Justice is amending the regulations of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to delegate to the Director of ATF the authority to serve as the deciding official regarding the denial, suspension, or revocation of federal firearms licenses, or the imposition of a civil fine.
The director will have the flexibility to delegate to another ATF official the authority to decide a revocation or denial matter, or may exercise that authority himself.
Whenever the Director of Industry Operations (DIO) has reason to believe that an applicant is not qualified to receive a license, he may issue a notice of denial on ATF Form 4498 to the applicant. The notice will set forth the matters of fact and law relied upon in determining that the application should be denied, and will afford the applicant 15 days from the date of receipt of the notice in which to request a hearing to review the denial.
If no request for a hearing is filed within such time, the application will be disapproved.
An applicant who has been denied an original or renewal license can file a request with the DIO for a hearing to review the denial of the application. On conclusion of the hearing and after consideration of all relevant facts and circumstances presented by the applicant or his representative, the DIO renders a decision confirming or reversing the denial of the application.

EDIT: Probably not, I re-read it, it is referring to the FFL, sorry.

 

[SavageEagle]

This is what our tax dollars are being used for?? oy, I guess I shouldn't be shocked, eh?

Is this somehow related?
Director of ATF May Now Deny, Suspend, or Revoke Federal Firearms Licenses


EDIT: Probably not, I re-read it, it is referring to the FFL, sorry.

I'm willing to bet they included the Federal agent retiree's licenses within that whole power grab. Soon it just may include OUR licenses. Then there will be hell to pay.

 

[edsinger]

The NRA should be all over this, this is CRAP!.

Is it starting?

 

[Kingrat]

doesnt (didnt, being past tense) ted nugent (the musician) also have one of these licenses?

 

[Roadie]

doesnt (didnt, being past tense) ted nugent (the musician) also have one of these licenses?

I believe you are correct.

 

[Vigilant]

How long ago is " a while back"? My father is an actual federal law enforcement officer, and has been for nearly 20 years, and he's never had a "permit", nor from our previous phone conversation has he ever even heard of one? Again, a prior poster laid out the actual ATF verbage saying that one does not exist at the fed level. Each Fed LEO carries on his Badge and Agency Creds, and always has. The Army actually used to have a DD or DA Form that if signed by a General Officer allowed concealed carry in the performance of military duties, but you didn't keep it when you left the service. HR218 would allow a current or retired LEO to carry on his retiree creds, after agency approval and qualification, but???

 

[GhostofWinter]

doesnt (didnt, being past tense) ted nugent (the musician) also have one of these licenses?

I believe you are correct.

Actually I don't think so. uncle Ted is a deputy in his local county in Michigan. As I understand it he has a legit badge as well as all the rights/privledges/responsibilities that it carries. Just like any other officer in the country.

Greg

Found what I was looking for:
He has been a special deputy sheriff in Lake County, Michigan, since 1982 and he also has been a reserve deputy constable in McLennan County, Texas.

Ted Nugent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cubby]

please, more info on this "license".

 

[Roadie]

Actually I don't think so. uncle Ted is a deputy in his local county in Michigan. As I understand it he has a legit badge as well as all the rights/privledges/responsibilities that it carries. Just like any other officer in the country.

Greg

Found what I was looking for:
He has been a special deputy sheriff in Lake County, Michigan, since 1982 and he also has been a reserve deputy constable in McLennan County, Texas.

Ted Nugent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

NVM, nothing to see here, move along...