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    Hatin Since 87

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    I legitimately don't see how this is even worth holding an election over if the democrats are seriously going to pick Biden.

    I think Bernie had a chance of rallying people, as he can generate enthusiasm, but Biden just can't do that. But we both know the DNC will never allow an independent to win their nomination.

    This Biden surge kind of makes me chuckle, considering the results of Iowa. Kind of like the DNC said "OOOOPS" and then decided to work on refining the vote.

    They felt as if Bernie was tainted because of labeling himself socialist. Bernie definitely would have had a better chance of beating trump than Biden has, but the DNC thought the safe pick with older democrats was Biden. Hopefully we see Bernie split and go independent so we can finally watch the DNC eat itself alive. It’d never happen, but man that would be awesome. Biden will implode during the first debate with trump.
     

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    I legitimately don't see how this is even worth holding an election over if the democrats are seriously going to pick Biden.

    I think Bernie had a chance of rallying people, as he can generate enthusiasm, but Biden just can't do that. But we both know the DNC will never allow an independent to win their nomination.

    This Biden surge kind of makes me chuckle, considering the results of Iowa. Kind of like the DNC said "OOOOPS" and then decided to work on refining the vote.

    Biden merely has to stay alive.

    The hate is strong.



    Voting against the other guy (or gal), worked for Republicans last time.
     

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    If Biden makes it to the debate with Trump, and Trump doesn't step all over himself, it will be a bloodbath. Biden gets the slightest bit upset, and he's cussing and telling people they're full of ****. Bring on the popcorn folks, it's gonna be good.
     

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    If Biden makes it to the debate with Trump, and Trump doesn't step all over himself, it will be a bloodbath. Biden gets the slightest bit upset, and he's cussing and telling people they're full of ****. Bring on the popcorn folks, it's gonna be good.

    There's one issue that I'm sure Trump is aware of. (I know because he says Sleepy Joe instead of something really insulting)

    If you hit Biden too hard, because he's obviously pathetic and in bad shape, it'll appear really distasteful to a large portion of undecided people, and garner a sympathy vote.
     

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    There's one issue that I'm sure Trump is aware of. (I know because he says Sleepy Joe instead of something really insulting)

    If you hit Biden too hard, because he's obviously pathetic and in bad shape, it'll appear really distasteful to a large portion of undecided people, and garner a sympathy vote.

    I see your point, but to be honest, I don't think Trump will even have to try that hard. Just normal banter seems to be almost too much for Sleepy Joe.

    I honestly do not know how Biden keeps his lies straight though about gun control. One minute, he's saying "Bingo" to gun confiscation on CNN, then next he's arguing with a man who actually works for a living, telling him not to be an ass, and saying how he supports the 2nd A. Get your **** together Joe, it's truly embarrassing.
     

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    There's one issue that I'm sure Trump is aware of. (I know because he says Sleepy Joe instead of something really insulting)

    If you hit Biden too hard, because he's obviously pathetic and in bad shape, it'll appear really distasteful to a large portion of undecided people, and garner a sympathy vote.

    Lol, I don’t think trump cares about that. I hope he doesn’t anyways. I like how he handled Hillary, and they called him sexist and all kinds of bs for it. I think if he’s smart he’ll do exactly what indygal said, he’ll get joe so aggravated he will snap and start cussing and threatening to fight. CNN and MSNBC are already going to label trump as the bad guy, might as well poke at Biden, sit back and watch the show. I’m excited to see it
     

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    I see your point, but to be honest, I don't think Trump will even have to try that hard. Just normal banter seems to be almost too much for Sleepy Joe.

    I honestly do not know how Biden keeps his lies straight though about gun control. One minute, he's saying "Bingo" to gun confiscation on CNN, then next he's arguing with a man who actually works for a living, telling him not to be an ass, and saying how he supports the 2nd A. Get your **** together Joe, it's truly embarrassing.

    He strikes me as a bit of a bully. He’ll jump on a “little person”, cussing them, insulting them, and/or challenging them to a fight. What a childish, petty, old fart. He’s the epitome of what the democrats bemoaned Trump for being for the last 4 years. It will be interesting to see how they spare when debate time comes around.
     

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    He strikes me as a bit of a bully. He’ll jump on a “little person”, cussing them, insulting them, and/or challenging them to a fight. What a childish, petty, old fart. He’s the epitome of what the democrats bemoaned Trump for being for the last 4 years. It will be interesting to see how they spare when debate time comes around.

    ^^^This. Yeah, Trump has his nicknames for people, and has encouraged protesters to be tossed out of his rallies (don't blame him there). But Biden has on numerous times called actual voters names, cussed at them, and challenged them to fights. WFT?? At least Trump's antics have been against other politicians, not the average voter. Biden is a bully, but his people will continue to cry, ...but Trump!"
     

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    Regardless of the "football match," I really believe a key to Trump's strategy for victory at this point has to be convincing young Democrat voters that nothing will change if Biden is elected President.

    It's a cynical play, designed not to persuade them to vote for Trump, but rather just get them to stay home on election day. Voter suppression of this type worked for Obama in torpedoing Romney during election summer. It is also absolutely critical to Trump in blunting democrats' advantage among young voters, and I hope he sees this.

    But the real problem here, and why I'm not sure the GOP is up to this, is because it requires Republicans to paint a somewhat dystopian picture of things being messed-up in America in the long-term sense. And that's not a typical Republican selling point. They're the "Morning in America Party," full of sunny, optimistic tropes about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. It's also complicated by the fact that Trump will want to run on his good economic record, which again strikes an "outside note" against the minor chord of saying oligarchical powers are increasingly in control of America (and by implication, that electing Biden will resume the long-term trend that was in place before Trump was elected).

    I think a good number of casual democrat voters stayed home the last election, because they thought Hillary had it in the bag.

    They won't make that mistake again. Trump does not have the advantage of surprise this time.

    If Trump can't keep the Bernie Bros discouraged and get them to stay home, I think this is over for him. I do not believe that what the Democrat party has done in this primary, alone by itself, is enough to assure this. I think Trump needs to harp on it: a vote for Biden is a vote to keep everything the same, in the pre-Trump sense.
     
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    I think their primary effect on the economy is their philosophy and outlook. If they are perceived as being friendly to the economy, the economy will grow under them unless there's a serious issue preventing that growth.

    Not terribly different from gun rights. If someone is perceived as being anti-gun, merely by being in power, they drive severe panic.

    Exactly. Look at the markets about 6-12 months from an election. From talking to multiple sources in multiple industries, (pre CV) many businesses across multiple have pumped the brakes. They started limiting spending and capital projects because they arent sure what the election will hold. As I recall it happened about the beginning of 2016 as well.



    I just find it humorous that people find old Joe to be Satan or sinful, and yet they support Trump who has an obvious problem keeping his hands and genitals out of trouble.

    But, I don't care. I'm voting for anyone but Trump. I cannot be convinced otherwise.

    And that's probably true of a majority of US voters at this point.

    Sorry. But, the Big Orange is going down.

    And Grandpa isnt much better...
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    Bernie’s best chance at this point seems to be inducing Biden either to snap out on a larger scale than happened in Detroit, or to break down as Edmund Muskie did in 1972, during the debate on Sunday night. If neither happens in the debate, or the debate is cancelled for “public health and safety” reasons, I expect Bernie to take the DNC money and sit down.

    What the BernieBots would do in the latter case will be interesting to behold.

    The DNC and others are already calling for the immediate and premature end of the primaries. They want establishment Biden to run, dont want Biden on stage debating ANYONE, not even Trump. Afraid of what his senile mouth will utter, probably. He used to be sharp, today not so much. Whether its actual senility/Alzheimers or not, he is a far cry from his glory days.

    And as to the Satan angle, he claims to be a Catholic, but is pro abortion. Cardinals are calling him out as a hypocrite that shouldnt be taking communion. Frankly, I'm surprised these catholic dems havent been excommunicated yet. They need to be.
    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...-supports-rev-who-denied-him-communion-879040
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    Regardless of the "football match," I really believe a key to Trump's strategy for victory at this point has to be convincing young Democrat voters that nothing will change if Biden is elected President.

    It's a cynical play, designed not to persuade them to vote for Trump, but rather just get them to stay home on election day. Voter suppression of this type worked for Obama in torpedoing Romney during election summer. It is also absolutely critical to Trump in blunting democrats' advantage among young voters, and I hope he sees this.

    But the real problem here, and why I'm not sure the GOP is up to this, is because it requires Republicans to paint a somewhat dystopian picture of things being messed-up in America in the long-term sense. And that's not a typical Republican selling point. They're the "Morning in America Party," full of sunny, optimistic tropes about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. It's also complicated by the fact that Trump will want to run on his good economic record, which again strikes an "outside note" against the minor chord of saying oligarchical powers are increasingly in control of America (and by implication, that electing Biden will resume the long-term trend that was in place before Trump was elected).

    I think a good number of casual democrat voters stayed home the last election, because they thought Hillary had it in the bag.

    They won't make that mistake again. Trump does not have the advantage of surprise this time.

    If Trump can't keep the Bernie Bros discouraged and get them to stay home, I think this is over for him. I do not believe that what the Democrat party has done in this primary, alone by itself, is enough to assure this. I think Trump needs to harp on it: a vote for Biden is a vote to keep everything the same, in the pre-Trump sense.

    Their candidates either appeal to young voters (Bernie) or old voters (Biden). Everything I’ve seen shows young voter turnout has been around 13% this primary cycle. I haven’t fact checked it but that’s the number I’ve seen more than once. So if they can’t get motivated to get out and make sure their candidate wins the nomination, I don’t think they’re gonna be more motivated to vote for a candidate they didn’t care for in the general election.
     

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    What is this, seventh grade?

    https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2020/03/03/michael-s-robinson-donald/
    He is now the nation’s chief law enforcement officer, India’s new national hero and the world’s top epidemiologist. While these claims may have caused you to roll your eyes and chuckle, his last two self-bestowed titles should create fear, not just in every American, but for all the world’s population.

    THE PRESIDENT: And, by the way, NIH, what they’ve done — I spent time over there — and I like this stuff.

    You know, my uncle was a great person. He was at MIT. He taught at MIT for, I think, like a record number of years. He was a great super genius. Dr. John Trump.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...enters-disease-control-prevention-atlanta-ga/

    I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, “How do you know so much about this?” Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.
     
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    the best thing a president can do is to stay out of the way. Obama was not great at that, Trump is better at that. However, overall, an individual president's effect upon the economy is pretty limited. There are so many more things that have larger effects.

    A President can have great affect on an economy. Heck Bernie was not even the nominee and the economy began risk pricing for him being president. The President is a one man check on an out of control congress, the business economy builds in assumptions based on a Presidents history and stated plans. Those assumptions can stimulate or retard the economy, be building blocks of a bigger economy or stumbling blocks to growth.

    Tax cuts, particularly corporate tax reductions can add to the stimulation of the economy. A message of reducing regulations followed by actually reducing them will have a stimulus affect to the economy. And executive orders can have a positive or negative affect on the economy. There are so many places the President can help or hurt an economy it is perplexing why anyone would want to minimizing the affects of these.

    Our current President has embraced most of those and the economy has responded positively so he deserves credit for doing that. We constantly lament the power the presidency has usurped but fail to recognize that the use of it continues to have increasing affect on the economy.

    As for the affect of Coronavirus on the economy no President is responsible for the economic affects of something like that...
     
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