The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Dr.Midnight]

 

[Alpo]

They could have done better by having 1700 Denny's asst managers tallying the votes, reporting them as GrandSlam variations assigned to each candidate.

The attendees could have had a good breakfast, Denny's would have made a few bucks and the waitresses might not have had to deal with as many drunks.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

The Iowa Caucus was a favorite thing of mine as an Iowan. I would have totally swapped to 'D' for a night to go stir sh*t and caucus for Bernie last night had I not moved to Indiana.

It's old school democracy. In 2016, we showed up, said a prayer, a pledge, and all ten candidates had a surrogate speak. Sometimes, you get actually get the candidate to speak. We happened to have Ted Cruz in our area. This is fun because the top-tier and well-organized candidates put on a good show, but the lesser guys were pretty interesting. Then we all listened to the plug for the local candidates, were told where the hat was to throw money, and then the voting began. We were all given a post-it note to write down our vote and then we passed it to the center aisle and went on our way.

The GOP doesn't do the screwy first count, second count, second choice thing. 2016 left a lot of pissed off D's because the thing was ran by the Hillary folks and lots of people thought big Bernie crowds were producing more delegates for HRC and nobody took a headcount. They spent 4 years planning this Iowa Caucus that was supposed to be amazing and hi tech. They originally wanted everyone to get an app, which would instantly eliminate the Biden Boomer crowd. I spent enough time in Des Moines to not be surprised by the outcome of the caucus. The liberals at the Des Moines Register fouling up the final poll was perhaps a leading indicator.

 

[Leadeye]

Wonder how many poor showings until Biden quits? It only took some light pressure in 1988.

 

[Phase2]

The liberals at the Des Moines Register fouling up the final poll was perhaps a leading indicator.

Somehow I had already forgotten that. How in the world do you first have a problem so bad that a major state poll doesn't release their results and then immediately mess up the actual voting process? Is their "Bernie can't be allowed to win" feature so broken?

 

[Alpo]

He's got lots of baggage with Hunter. It may have been legal but the optics are horrendous. Time for Joe to retire.

Anyway, Klob, Butt and Mini-Mike are a lot more exciting and will produce a better convention. Joe is over the hill. If Iowa doesn't prove it, I expect New Hampshire will.

As to the socialists, Bernie and Liz, no middle of the pack democrat is going to go along with M4all and reparations*. Buh bye.





*excludes Issei and Nisei interned during WWII. These are actual citizens who lost property and income as a result of actions taken. They should be fully compensated.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

That headline.

Republicans gloat over Iowa caucus meltdown - CBS News

Shouldn't it be "Democrats **** up caucus"? Nah, gotta do the Republicans pounce! angle.

 

[Brad69]

Brads take on Iowa’s non primary/caucus disaster.

1. Non reported by MSM record numbers showed up for the Republican caucus for no other reason but support for President DJT.

2. Looks bad for Iowans lots of people looking at the state and it’s people as idiots.

3. Democrats all claiming victory makes them look stupid.

4. A bad vibe from the Democrats to moderate independent voters if you cannot get this right how can you run a country.

5. I say a 50% chance Iowa will not be first state any longer will be a Super Tuesday state?

I do not like Bernie but one could surmise without going all Alex Jones that the DNC is stacking the deck again.

 

[Alpo]

That headline.

Republicans gloat over Iowa caucus meltdown - CBS News

Shouldn't it be "Democrats **** up caucus"? Nah, gotta do the Republicans pounce! angle.

Latest news I have:

The data collection was accurate. There was a code error in the final tally reporting. Best results I have at this point: Sanders 27%, Warren 25%, Buttigieg 23%.

 

[BugI02]

The Iowa Caucus was a favorite thing of mine as an Iowan. I would have totally swapped to 'D' for a night to go stir sh*t and caucus for Bernie last night had I not moved to Indiana.

It's old school democracy. In 2016, we showed up, said a prayer, a pledge, and all ten candidates had a surrogate speak. Sometimes, you get actually get the candidate to speak. We happened to have Ted Cruz in our area. This is fun because the top-tier and well-organized candidates put on a good show, but the lesser guys were pretty interesting. Then we all listened to the plug for the local candidates, were told where the hat was to throw money, and then the voting began. We were all given a post-it note to write down our vote and then we passed it to the center aisle and went on our way.

The GOP doesn't do the screwy first count, second count, second choice thing. 2016 left a lot of pissed off D's because the thing was ran by the Hillary folks and lots of people thought big Bernie crowds were producing more delegates for HRC and nobody took a headcount. They spent 4 years planning this Iowa Caucus that was supposed to be amazing and hi tech. They originally wanted everyone to get an app, which would instantly eliminate the Biden Boomer crowd. I spent enough time in Des Moines to not be surprised by the outcome of the caucus. The liberals at the Des Moines Register fouling up the final poll was perhaps a leading indicator.

I can hardly wait for these people to start telling us how only they can run a free and fair election in the age of Trump. They shouldn't be let within a thousand miles of a voting machine operating system. I am continually astounded by their willingness to show their 'by any means necessary' hand to achieve the results they want/think they need

 

[KittySlayer]

Interesting timing this week on how the media will allocate their coverage of:

• State of the Union
• Impeachment Acquittal
• Iowa Caucus Results
• The latest Trump witch hunt

It's going to be a busy couple of days in the newsrooms. I would avoid taking any helicopter rides.

 

[BugI02]

I believe the "punishment" for Iowa is that they will no longer be the first primary in the nation and be forced to move back to Super Tuesday. It's ridiculous to spend so much money on a state with half the number of people that we have in Indiana.

Bye, Felicia.

I have to wonder if this is some sort of DNC night of the long knives to rid themselves of things they feel are impediments; like Bernie, the caucuses and any pretense of democracy

 

[HoughMade]

Latest news I have:

The data collection was accurate. There was a code error in the final tally reporting. Best results I have at this point: Sanders 27%, Warren 25%, Buttigieg 23%.

No Joe? The Iowa Caucus has a mixed history of predicting the eventual candidate, but could it make the Democrats ripe for Bloomberg to sweep in and "save" the Dems from these three unelectable (in their eyes) loons?

 

[BugI02]

I'd be happy with blocs of states voting on a few different days. The present process is too unweildy.

I think such bloc voting, which could be organized around various regions, should still be spread out in time to allow for the emergence of new information about a particular candidate and minimize buyer remorse

 

[BugI02]

Originally Posted by Alpo

I'd be happy with blocs of states voting on a few different days. The present process is untenable

FIFY

Is it nineable?

 

[Mikey1911]

He's got lots of baggage with Hunter. It may have been legal but the optics are horrendous. Time for Joe to retire.

Anyway, Klob, Butt and Mini-Mike are a lot more exciting and will produce a better convention. Joe is over the hill. If Iowa doesn't prove it, I expect New Hampshire will.

As to the socialists, Bernie and Liz, no middle of the pack democrat is going to go along with M4all and reparations*. Buh bye.





*excludes Issei and Nisei interned during WWII. These are actual citizens who lost property and income as a result of actions taken as authorized by Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s issuance of Executive Order 9066. They should be fully compensated.

You are correct, the Issei and Nisei should be fully compensated for the consequences of what amounted to a Bill of Attainder.

 

[Alpo]

I have to wonder if this is some sort of DNC night of the long knives to rid themselves of things they feel are impediments; like Bernie, the caucuses and any pretense of democracy

I think it may just be poor software testing. This stuff should be pretty simple, but they may have simpletons managing the process.

 

[Alpo]

No Joe? The Iowa Caucus has a mixed history of predicting the eventual candidate, but could it make the Democrats ripe for Bloomberg to sweep in and "save" the Dems from these three unelectable (in their eyes) loons?

My "source" only gives top 3. I don't think Joe was close, but have no data yet.