The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[Alpo]

See? I thought the Mouse that Roars would think a comment that included Palin and Basement would be too provacative from me.

But you can probably get away with it.

 

[nonobaddog]

Which party has controlled both houses and the presidency for the last two years?

Which party blocked everything and obstructed the government from functioning?

 

[nonobaddog]

You sound just like Sarah Palin.

Can you see Mexico from your apartment?

You couldn't be much more wrong but then you seem used to that. I can almost see Canada from my house.

 

[Alpo]

Which party blocked everything and obstructed the government from functioning?

The one that held majorities in both legislative branches? The Republicans.

What do I win? I know I'm the first one in with the correct answer.

 

[Alpo]

You couldn't be much more wrong but then you seem used to that. I can almost see Canada from my house.

You've got the Palinesque idioms down pat though.

You do realize she lost that election way back when? Hard habit to break?

 

[BugI02]

Which party has controlled both houses and the presidency for the last two years?

Which President accomplished more within that window than anyone since Reagan? Sorry he couldn't fix everything immediately, perhaps after 3 Nov 2020. He did assay several strategies to apply the brakes on border jumping, only to be hamstrung by the courts and the timidity of tree-huggers (placeholder employees whose primary concern is keeping their job) in his own party. The party of Trump can now probably be said to control the Senate; when that body contained fifth columnists like McCain and Flake, this was not true.

As far as I can tell or remember, no one controls the House (although Gingrich thought/thinks he did)

 

[caverjamie]

All I know is the republicans had the house, senate, and presidency - and now they don't, and I still don't have my concealed carry reciprocity...

 

[BugI02]

You sound just like Sarah Palin.

Can you see Mexico from your apartment?

No, but I can see it from the Pendry or the Four Seasons

 

[Alpo]

Which President accomplished more within that window than anyone since Reagan? Sorry he couldn't fix everything immediately, perhaps after 3 Nov 2020. He did assay several strategies to apply the brakes on border jumping, only to be hamstrung by the courts and the timidity of tree-huggers (placeholder employees whose primary concern is keeping their job) in his own party. The party of Trump can now probably be said to control the Senate; when that body contained fifth columnists like McCain and Flake, this was not true.

As far as I can tell or remember, no one controls the House (although Gingrich thought/thinks he did)

Why don't you save yourself all that typing and possible carpal tunnel injury by just typing:

SQUIRREL!!!

Deflection has its usefulness, until it becomes habitual.

 

[BugI02]

Why don't you save yourself all that typing and possible carpal tunnel injury by just typing:

SQUIRREL!!!

Deflection has its usefulness, until it becomes habitual.

Odd, I thought I was responding to an assertion by Fargo erroneously highlighting single party 'control' of all three branches as some unique, unheralded situation that seemingly should have resulted in our every wish being granted [see:Obama 2008-2010] [see: crease]

Back to sleep, Abe - you'll spike your BP

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[nonobaddog]

The one that held majorities in both legislative branches? The Republicans.

What do I win? I know I'm the first one in with the correct answer.

Bzzzzt. Wrong answer. You lose.

 

[Fargo]

Odd, I thought I was responding to an assertion by Fargo erroneously highlighting single party 'control' of all three branches as some unique, unheralded situation that seemingly should have resulted in our every wish being granted [see:Obama 2008-2010] [see: crease]

Back to sleep, Abe - you'll spike your BP

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I think you miss characterize my position. There republican party held control of all three, yet we blame the Democrats for not passing border wall funding?

I would think the lions share of the "blame" should go to the people/party who had the ability to do it, but did not.

 

[nonobaddog]

Control is a misleading term too. It is commonly used to describe a majority. However with thinking congress people, they are supposed to vote to represent their constituents rather than mindlessly vote to represent "the party".
The Republicans are a little slow to switch to the new paradigm like the dumocraps who vote like dumb droids for "the party". America suffers most from this "party first" thinking but as long as one side does it, it kind of forces the other side to at least consider playing the same stupid way.

 

[Fargo]

Control is a misleading term too. It is commonly used to describe a majority. However with thinking congress people, they are supposed to vote to represent their constituents rather than mindlessly vote to represent "the party".
The Republicans are a little slow to switch to the new paradigm like the dumocraps who vote like dumb droids for "the party". America suffers most from this "party first" thinking but as long as one side does it, it kind of forces the other side to at least consider playing the same stupid way.

Yeah, it's weird, almost like a lot of Republican lawmakers either didn't want the wall, didn't want to fund the wall, or recognized it was political suicide to do so.

Calling that the Democrats fault, is disingenuous at best. Then again, actually accepting responsibility seems to have fallen out of favor with the Republicans almost as much as it has with the Democrats.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Yeah, it's weird, almost like a lot of Republican lawmakers either didn't want the wall, didn't want to fund the wall, or recognized it was political suicide to do so.

Calling that the Democrats fault, is disingenuous at best. Then again, actually accepting responsibility seems to have fallen out of favor with the Republicans almost as much as it has with the Democrats.

It has been this way before. When the Democrats held the majority in both houses, they called the Republicans the obstructionists too.

 

[Fargo]

It has been this way before. When the Democrats held the majority in both houses, they called the Republicans the obstructionists too.

Well, when you are trying to please everyone, accepting responsibility and taking a position kinda sucks. It's much easier to just convince the nonobaddogs of the world that it is those lousy "fill in the blanks" fault.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Well, when you are trying to please everyone, accepting responsibility and taking a position kinda sucks. It's much easier to just convince the nonobaddogs of the world that it is those lousy "fill in the blanks" fault.

Kind of why I like Trump. He's not concerned with pleasing everyone. He more than accepts responsibility (read: takes credit), and he's not been shy about taking a position. When my then 94 year old mother asked me why I voted for him, I told her, "Because he's an ******* Mom, and I think we need one about now."

 

[Fargo]

Kind of why I like Trump. He's not concerned with pleasing everyone. He more than accepts responsibility (read: takes credit), and he's not been shy about taking a position. When my then 94 year old mother asked me why I voted for him, I told her, "Because he's an ******* Mom, and I think we need one about now."

I really think it was the not giving a damn part of his personality that is largely responsible for his political success. People are sick of the whining unprincipled inaction that has dominated Washington.

With Trump, you at least know that he's going to do something.

 

[jamil]

This is my response from the other thread. I need to take time for a more thoughtful response, but this was my initial reaction:

I havn't figured out multi-quoting, so I'll just say this: Many people had high hopes for Sessions when he was first announced as AG, especially the people of Alabama, who were proud of him. The day after he was sworn in as AG, he recused himself from the most important, attention grabbing circus of the next two years; the Mueller investigation, and everything encompassed by that, including the FBI incestuous garbage that we've all seen and been subjected to. I say incestuous because there's a long and storied history between all the players in this coup attempt to take down Trump; you'll have to do your research on that; I don't keep detailed lists of my own research. Sessions' failure was that he allowed all the BS to go on, and really couldn't intervene, due to the fact he had recused himself unnecessarily, over some routine meeting he had with some Russians, leading up to the election of Trump. The fact that he did so the day after he was sworn in, instead of telling Trump the day before, interests many people.

The way the game is played, when your guy is in trouble, you need the support of your party's representatives in congress. Several Republican senators called for sessions to recuse himself. The optics of "Eric Holdering" the president after it was revealed that sessions had a meeting with the Russian Ambassador aren't very good.

You can think of it as an issue of political capital. Obama and Holder had all kinds of political capital to spend on Holder protecting his president. All the democrats were united in supporting Obama. All the press was united in Supporting Obama. Sessions didn't have that. Republicans were split on blindly supporting Trump, especially early on. The press, of course, has been against Trump from day one. Sessions knows how the game is played. At the time there wasn't the political capital to spend. I don't think his decision was bad. And I certainly don't want the AG running interference for the President.

I think Sessions has done remarkably well considering what he has to work with. If Trump fired him for what happened at the beginning of Trump's presidency, that's kinda petty. He's **** on Sessions the whole time and from what we can tell Sessions was nothing but loyal to him.

 

[jamil]

Which party blocked everything and obstructed the government from functioning?

During which administration?