The 2020 General Election Thread

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Top Actors & Showrunners Ask NBC To Move Donald Trump Town Hall From Slot Opposite ABC’s Joe Biden Special

I strenuously object to @NBC
giving Trump a town hall directly opposite Biden's on @ABC
. Trump pulled out of the debate to destabilize the election. I understand NBC is required to give him an hour of prime time but request that they reschedule it so that America can watch both.

So what this guy is saying is that given the opportunity, everyone would watch Trump over biden...

 

[jamil]

There's such a thing as lying through omission. Which is the overwhelming majority of what the media typically does.

If you present the story with the context you want it to have, you can force people to come to the conclusion you want. Trump's taxes is a perfect example of this.
It allows them to lie by claiming Trump only paid $750 in taxes, which was half true. Because in the records they gave you, he only paid $750 in taxes.

I would not concede that the information was truthful. We don't know what was on Trump's tax returns. The NYT reported that they had obtained Trump's tax return information. Which would still be illegal if it was derived from Trump's actual tax documents. That should be investigated. And if the information is accurate, start prosecuting people at NYT.

 

[jamil]

Very poor logic. A monopoly is associated with market control, not the number of users.

You just made his point. You not using Twitter has nothing to do with whether Twitter controls the micro-blogging market or not.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

So what this guy is saying is that given the opportunity, everyone would watch Trump over biden...

Yep. CNN is already making the excuses for why trumps ratings will be higher than Biden’s. “Everyone wants to watch a train wreck”


They day the trump train is wrecking, meanwhile Biden is still riding horseback.

 

[jamil]

Sorry if this has been brought up but since early voting started the number of people lining up each day to vote early here in the “People’s Republic of Monroe County” is mind boggling. We have people wrapping around an entire city block waiting to cast their vote at 8:00 AM and this has been going on for days. I have been told by business owners near the polling place that there is always a line starting at 8:00 AM until closing at 6pm. I tried to vote yesterday at 1:30 PM and walked away when the line only stretched one city block thinking I would get the jump on people early this morning but it was 4 times worse this morning. Will try again right before the polls close at 6pm. There is something in the air when you have so many people willing to put up will this kind of inconvenience to cast a vote. So far 2020 has been one wild ride and we aren’t at the top of the roll-a-coaster hill yet so hang on cause the next two months could be something you tell your grandkids about.

Well. If you notice any purple-hair effeminate males standing in line, take a note of them and see if you see them again tomorrow. And the next day. And the next day. Remember. Democrats vote early and vote often.

 

[OakRiver]

He learned his lesson, he's not a political hack going forward. Good to know.

"Once you Deplorables have forgotten about this he'll be right back, and he'll have learned to use DMs and better hide his bias"

 

[OakRiver]

Top Actors & Showrunners Ask NBC To Move Donald Trump Town Hall From Slot Opposite ABC’s Joe Biden Special

Wouldn't the respective ratings show which candidate generates more public interest? Why do these entertainers hate people making choices of their own free will?

I'm curious to see if there are any dirty tricks from NBC, or "rogue employees", to try to keep their base happy by disrupting Trump's event.

 

[OakRiver]

So what this guy is saying is that given the opportunity, everyone would watch Trump over biden...

I mean, we'll only learn Biden's policies if he is voted into office, so what's he going to talk about? It's not like he is going to be pressed on Hunter's indiscretions, or the Tara Reade allegations, or his plagiarizing of the British Prime Minister.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Wouldn't the respective ratings show which candidate generates more public interest? Why do these entertainers hate people making choices of their own free will?

I'm curious to see if there are any dirty tricks from NBC, or "rogue employees", to try to keep their base happy by disrupting Trump's event.

 

[actaeon277]

They're mad because they know with Trump on NBC, no one will be tuning into ABC to watch Sleepy Joe. It will be very interesting to see the ratings of the two events.

Yup.
They wouldn't like the ratings

 

[mmpsteve]

I mean, we'll only learn Biden's policies if he is voted into office, so what's he going to talk about? It's not like he is going to be pressed on Hunter's indiscretions, or the Tara Reade allegations, or his plagiarizing of the British Prime Minister.

Correct. I don't picture Stephanufagus pushing too hard on Biden. It'll be interesting to see if he actually helps him though.

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[Alpo]

You just made his point. You not using Twitter has nothing to do with whether Twitter controls the micro-blogging market or not.

micro-blogging...doesn't sound like a monopoly. Sounds like a boutique form of newsiness.

National Politics on Twitter: Small Share of U.S. Adults Produce Majority of Tweets

It's only important to those who think it's important. Most of us don't give a ****.

 

[actaeon277]

[video=youtube_share;O1OhE4w0TAU]https://youtu.be/O1OhE4w0TAU[/video]

 

[OakRiver]

Correct. I don't picture Stephanufagus pushing too hard on Biden. It'll be interesting to see if he actually helps him though.

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I think this'll demonstrate the different treatments the candidates will receive

[video=youtube_share;N31tgcG1Kuk]https://youtu.be/N31tgcG1Kuk?t=28[/video]

 

[jamil]

micro-blogging...doesn't sound like a monopoly. Sounds like a boutique form of newsiness.

It's only important to those who think it's important. Most of us don't give a ****.

1) Whether Twitter has a market doesn’t hinge on what its market is called sounds like to you.

2) the quote is talking about how many people tweet, not how many people use twitter. If only a few people were tweeting to only a few people Twitter would not make any money. A very large majority of Twitter users don’t tweet, but they read Twitter. That’s my use case. I follow mostly news makers. Because you don’t use Twitter you’re probably not aware that most news hits Twitter before it makes the headlines.

The points you’ve raised are facile excuses to dismiss information that you don’t want to be true.

 

[Kutnupe14]

They're mad because they know with Trump on NBC, no one will be tuning into ABC to watch Sleepy Joe. It will be very interesting to see the ratings of the two events.

Im in 100% agreement. Say what you want about Trump, just don’t say he’s not entertaining.

 

[Alpo]

1) Whether Twitter has a market doesn’t hinge on what its market is called sounds like to you.

2) the quote is talking about how many people tweet, not how many people use twitter. If only a few people were tweeting to only a few people Twitter would not make any money. A very large majority of Twitter users don’t tweet, but they read Twitter. That’s my use case. I follow mostly news makers. Because you don’t use Twitter you’re probably not aware that most news hits Twitter before it makes the headlines.

The points you’ve raised are facile excuses to dismiss information that you don’t want to be true.

What it hinges on, is law and precedent. Neither of those things have been articulated by your observations.

And yes, market share is a significant factor in the determination of whether a firm enjoys monopoly power.

It isn't how many fan boys love Trump or the Kardashians. The world is a much better and bigger place.

 

[OakRiver]

That's weird
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...ctor-decamps-for-biden-transition-team-417293
"Twitter's public policy director, Carlos Monje, has left the social media company's Washington office to join the transition team for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, a person familiar with the move said Thursday.

Monje's exact position on the transition team was not immediately clear and Biden's transition team declined to comment. Requests for comment sent to Monje were not immediately returned. But he serves as co-chair of Biden's infrastructure policy committee and helped host a fundraiser for the former vice president this week, according to an invitation obtained by POLITICO.


The person who confirmed Monje's new job spoke anonymously because the individual was not authorized to disclose the information"

https://nypost.com/2020/10/01/joe-biden-hires-facebooks-jessica-hertz-for-transition-team/
"Joe Biden’s transition team has hired top Facebook executive Jessica Hertz as its general counsel to oversee ethical issues, as the campaign tussles with the social media giant to get it to censor President Trump’s posts, according to a report.


This will be the second hire by Team Biden of a former Big Tech executive, following Carlos Monje, Twitter’s director of public policy brought on as co-chair of the transition team’s infrastructure policy committee."


Biden hires high level talent from Big Tech, and then receives benefits from Big Tech, preventing harm to his campaign. That wouldn't be a Quid Pro Quo would it?

 

[jamil]

What it hinges on, is law and precedent. Neither of those things have been articulated by your observations.

And yes, market share is a significant factor in the determination of whether a firm enjoys monopoly power.

It isn't how many fan boys love Trump or the Kardashians. The world is a much better and bigger place.

Kinda seems like you didn't pay attention to which noun I was talking about about. "Market" was the hingy part, not "monopoly" You didn't like the sound of "micro-blogging", which is a subset of the social media market. So basically, Twitter and Facebook don't really compete against each other because they both operate in different markets within tech/social media.

With that cleared up, micro-blogging is owned by Twitter. Their closest competitor in that space is Gab, which has almost no market share compared with Twitter. So yes, Twitter dominates that market and pretty much has a Monopoly.

Finally, no one said it's about fanboy count. That's just a jab you threw in. We've been talking about monopolies, market share, Facebook, Twitter, to a large extent Youtube, have monopolies in their own spaces within social media. Tik Tok competes with Youtube. They have overlap, but they're not serious competitors. Twitch also competes with Youtube a little, but again only in the areas where they overlap. And that's not all that serious.

 

[jamil]

That's weird
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...ctor-decamps-for-biden-transition-team-417293
"Twitter's public policy director, Carlos Monje, has left the social media company's Washington office to join the transition team for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, a person familiar with the move said Thursday.

Monje's exact position on the transition team was not immediately clear and Biden's transition team declined to comment. Requests for comment sent to Monje were not immediately returned. But he serves as co-chair of Biden's infrastructure policy committee and helped host a fundraiser for the former vice president this week, according to an invitation obtained by POLITICO.


The person who confirmed Monje's new job spoke anonymously because the individual was not authorized to disclose the information"

https://nypost.com/2020/10/01/joe-biden-hires-facebooks-jessica-hertz-for-transition-team/
"Joe Biden’s transition team has hired top Facebook executive Jessica Hertz as its general counsel to oversee ethical issues, as the campaign tussles with the social media giant to get it to censor President Trump’s posts, according to a report.


This will be the second hire by Team Biden of a former Big Tech executive, following Carlos Monje, Twitter’s director of public policy brought on as co-chair of the transition team’s infrastructure policy committee."


Biden hires high level talent from Big Tech, and then receives benefits from Big Tech, preventing harm to his campaign. That wouldn't be a Quid Pro Quo would it?

Oh, it's nothing. Alpo assures us it's all good. Nothing to worry about. It's not like someone in a position of making public policy for Twitter was influencing their policies to favor Democrats.