Teacher with legal guns triggers CBP checkpoint incident

[mrjarrell]

So, this time the goons dragged a disabled lady out of her car, (claiming their dog alerted on pills. Yeah, right) and proned her out. All because she readily admitted she had legally possessed firearms with her. These cretins need to be disbanded, along with their stasi stops and sent to pick up garbage along the roadside. How a court ever agreed that these stops were even slightly Constitutional is beyond me.

Teacher with legal guns triggers CBP checkpoint incident

 

[Kirk Freeman]

claiming their dog alerted on pills

Ahhh, its the magic evolution theory of Officer Chompy yet again!

Time to score the dogs.

Oh, and to compensate this lady.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border, or will immigration just go on the honor system?

Did they use a tank?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border

Just thinking out loud, but maybe we put Border Patrol . . . back on the border?

Did they use a tank?

No, but they used the fraudulent pretext of the magic-nosed dog.

 

[mrjarrell]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border, or will immigration just go on the honor system?

Did they use a tank?

They're not patrolling the border. They're 100 miles from it. If they want to be the border patrol then they should get their asses down to the border and walk the line. This is just more police state nonsense and it needs to be squashed. As for disbanding them...I have no issue with that either. Let the county sheriffs down there do it. By the numbers of border crossers here, I'd say the BP is incompetent on their best day.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border, or will immigration just go on the honor system?

Did they use a tank?

I know, right. If we disbanded the Border Patrol, we might very well end up with MILLIONS of illegal immigrants from Mexico.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

As for disbanding them...I have no issue with that either. Let the county sheriffs down there do it. By the numbers of border crossers here, I'd say the BP is incompetent on their best day.

Your original post called for disbanding, so I didn't think so.

As usual, you speak from a position of ignorance as to conditions on the ground and assume you know what's going on. BP is far from incompetent, but when then are given insufficient resources and when the political and judicial system aren't pulling their weight, there's only so much they can do.

When I was there, you caught an illegal, you thumbprinted them, and if they didn't have any dope, warrants, etc. they were driven back to a border checkpoint and put back into Mexico. They could try again in a few hours. If BP catches you 10 times and you get through on the 11th, the only thing you were out was time.

The border consists of nothing but a fence in many places, and even less in long stretches. It's impossible to adequately patrol the border given the manpower they need, ESPECIALLY when people who are caught are just put back to try again.

I'm all for letting the county sheriffs enforce immigration law. Nationwide. Every police department and sheriff's department that comes into contact with an illegal or arrests an illegal should be able to call the feds and have them picked up and deported. But that steps on too many toes. Liberals whine about profiling and "people getting deported for an out headlight", conservatives whine about wages and "can't find Americans to do these jobs" which is code for the jobs don't pay enough, and so nothing gets done. We do not punish illegals who do not get through, we reward those who manage to get through, and then blame the ones tasked with catching them when they can't stem the tide?

Blaming BP for these failings and calling them incompetent is ridiculous.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Blaming BP for these failings and calling them incompetent is ridiculous.

I agree. I don't know anything about BP, but I see the same thing with wildlife management and environmental regulatory agencies.

 

[halfmileharry]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border, or will immigration just go on the honor system?

Did they use a tank?

BEEF UP the Border Patrol, more men and resources. Mean business instead of ***** footing around and listening to some dipstick wannabe Chicago politician

 

[femurphy77]

I know, right. If we disbanded the Border Patrol, we might very well end up with MILLIONS of illegal immigrants from Mexico.

Uhhhh

 

[Classic]

So there aren't enough BP agents at the border, they man checkpoints 100 miles in and "We seize drugs at these checkpoints, and we make arrests of people who are wanted on warrants.". I'd say they aren't doing their primary job in favor of doing domestic policing. Put them back on the border then.

When the officers on INGO feel that police are being unfairly leaned upon by some, this sort of bs is what triggers anti police and anti government sentiment.

 

[Fred78]

The only time I hear anything about the border patrol is when they are searching a wheel chair, or harassing some lady with a walker. At least they didn't dump two magazines in the poor women.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Seems excessive for sure. I'm curious why someone who can't stand without her walker would store it in the bed of her truck. How does she retrieve it?

here's her accident story. Sounds like a bad one.

http://bigbendnow.com/2013/04/presidio-teacher-injured-in-fatal-wreck/

 

[smokingman]

There were 20,745 border patrol agents as of April 9, 2011; 17,659 of them stationed along the southwest border with Mexico, according to data provided by Steven Cribby, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security.

The border with Mexico is 1989 miles long.If you divide the agents into 3 shifts we have enough agents, if put in a line on the border an officer would be stationed every 580 yards.Border patrol has already flown over 10,000 drone flights on the southern border.

Of course since the information in 2011 from DHS the number of agents has increased to well over 21,000(on the southern border).

Politics is the only reason the border is not secure.

 

[actaeon277]

There were 20,745 border patrol agents as of April 9, 2011; 17,659 of them stationed along the southwest border with Mexico, according to data provided by Steven Cribby, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security.

The border with Mexico is 1989 miles long.If you divide the agents into 3 shifts we have enough agents, if put in a line on the border an officer would be stationed every 580 yards.Border patrol has already flown over 10,000 drone flights on the southern border.

Of course since the information in 2011 from DHS the number of agents has increased to well over 21,000(on the southern border).

Politics is the only reason the border is not secure.

People need days off, so it would have to be 4 shifts.
And a lot of those agents are going to be desk jockeys.
Border crossings require several agents there, at the same time.

 

[indiucky]

Just thinking out loud, but maybe we put Border Patrol . . . back on the border?



No, but they used the fraudulent pretext of the magic-nosed dog.

STOP MAKING SENSE!!!! It confuses people and defuses faux outrage.....

 

[AA&E]

Disband Border Patrol? Then what? Who'll patrol the border, or will immigration just go on the honor system?

Did they use a tank?

We could militarize the border and fire on anyone that crosses? It would be more effective and serve as a deterrent. The ones that are here aren't going anywhere, Obama is seeing to that.

 

[AA&E]

Your original post called for disbanding, so I didn't think so.

As usual, you speak from a position of ignorance as to conditions on the ground and assume you know what's going on. BP is far from incompetent, but when then are given insufficient resources and when the political and judicial system aren't pulling their weight, there's only so much they can do.

When I was there, you caught an illegal, you thumbprinted them, and if they didn't have any dope, warrants, etc. they were driven back to a border checkpoint and put back into Mexico. They could try again in a few hours. If BP catches you 10 times and you get through on the 11th, the only thing you were out was time.

The border consists of nothing but a fence in many places, and even less in long stretches. It's impossible to adequately patrol the border given the manpower they need, ESPECIALLY when people who are caught are just put back to try again.

I'm all for letting the county sheriffs enforce immigration law. Nationwide. Every police department and sheriff's department that comes into contact with an illegal or arrests an illegal should be able to call the feds and have them picked up and deported. But that steps on too many toes. Liberals whine about profiling and "people getting deported for an out headlight", conservatives whine about wages and "can't find Americans to do these jobs" which is code for the jobs don't pay enough, and so nothing gets done. We do not punish illegals who do not get through, we reward those who manage to get through, and then blame the ones tasked with catching them when they can't stem the tide?

Blaming BP for these failings and calling them incompetent is ridiculous.

Care to comment on the drug dogs alerting on prescription medications? I already know the answer...

 

[jontheturboguy]

How about actually securing the border, then maybe you won't have prior burger flippers running checkpoints....

 

[JettaKnight]

So, this time the goons dragged a disabled lady out of her car, (claiming their dog alerted on pills. Yeah, right) and proned her out. All because she readily admitted she had legally possessed firearms with her. These cretins need to be disbanded, along with their stasi stops and sent to pick up garbage along the roadside. How a court ever agreed that these stops were even slightly Constitutional is beyond me.

Teacher with legal guns triggers CBP checkpoint incident

Was there something in the video I missed? I didn't watch it, but the article used the phrase, "ordered her out of the vehicle" and there's a photo of her on a quad-wheeler.