STL Cop warns officers to turn off dashcam while arresting suspect

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Police dash cam shows part of contested arrest ? until St. Louis officer turns camera off : News

It shows St. Louis police making an arrest that would later be called abusive, and catches an apparently surprised officer yelling, in part, “Everybody hold up. We’re red right now!” before she abruptly shuts off the camera.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Its douchebags like this that give cops a bad name.

 

[mrjarrell]

Dashcams and body cams and people filming them are what they fear the most. Without video this guy would have been railroaded into prison and the trained liars would have skated. Now they're facing charges, (for once).
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[KellyinAvon]

They can turn off the cameras?

 

[hoosierdoc]

Can, or should?

 

[Classic]

Turning them off should constitute evidence tampering. Should be on all of the time and sent to the "cloud".

 

[Dosproduction]

Those cameras should be broadcasted live on certain channels/websites and never be able to go off while officer is on duty. Police have NO right to privacy while there getting paid by tax dollars. And for that matter the same should happen to ALL politicians all the time.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I disagree with full time body cams. Just plain too much data to sort through. Having to turn it on during anticipated encounters is fine.

dashcams on loops are fine to be constantly on with easy ability to save data from encounters. 24x7 recording is not reasonable.

depso, how does the officer poop? If he stops by his house, should that be live fed?

 

[pudly]

Those cameras should be broadcasted live on certain channels/websites and never be able to go off while officer is on duty. Police have NO right to privacy while there getting paid by tax dollars. And for that matter the same should happen to ALL politicians all the time.

No privacy at any time. Only if you are first in line for that job.

 

[TopDog]

OK I am missing something here. I watched the video. What a saw was a guy refusing to cooperate. Then physically resisting and I could not see but did hear one of the female cops yell at the perp stop kicking. So it looked to me like the cops did everything right. Please point out the abuse part for me.

 

[chipbennett]

The really egregious issue here is that the officer intentionally turned off the video recording already in progress, because of officers' fear of what the recording would capture, during an altercation that had already turned physical.

Officers with nothing to hide would have no such fears. Intentionally stopping recording of an in-progress physical altercation is absolutely evidence tampering, and should be adjudicated accordingly. Not only did she potentially destroy/preclude evidence of officer wrongdoing, but she also cost the State (i.e. taxpayers) potential evidence to convict someone who was arrested.

 

[atvdave]

They can turn off the cameras?

My thoughts also.... If the lights are activated the cameras should be on with no way to turn them off, and transmitted to HQ to be recorded.

 

[TopDog]

The really egregious issue here is that the officer intentionally turned off the video recording already in progress, because of officers' fear of what the recording would capture, during an altercation that had already turned physical.

Officers with nothing to hide would have no such fears. Intentionally stopping recording of an in-progress physical altercation is absolutely evidence tampering, and should be adjudicated accordingly. Not only did she potentially destroy/preclude evidence of officer wrongdoing, but she also cost the State (i.e. taxpayers) potential evidence to convict someone who was arrested.

I would have agreed that officers with nothing to hide would have no such fears 10 years ago. Not now, every race baiter and cop hater in the country is on a massive witch hunt. Look at how the media has misconstrued, slanted and at times have outright lied to convict cops in the media in a blanted effort to turn the public into cop haters.

I would never be a cop. Its a damned if you do and damned if you don't world for the cops.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Those cameras should be broadcasted live on certain channels/websites and never be able to go off while officer is on duty. Police have NO right to privacy while there getting paid by tax dollars. And for that matter the same should happen to ALL politicians all the time.

How about ANY person that receives tax dollars, while working, is denied right to privacy? Cameras everywhere.

 

[CTS]

and transmitted to HQ to be recorded.

Most areas don't have the bandwidth available that would require and the costs would be crazy.

 

[chipbennett]

I would have agreed that officers with nothing to hide would have no such fears 10 years ago. Not now, every race baiter and cop hater in the country is on a massive witch hunt. Look at how the media has misconstrued, slanted and at times have outright lied to convict cops in the media in a blanted effort to turn the public into cop haters.

I would never be a cop. Its a damned if you do and damned if you don't world for the cops.

I consider that extra regard/precaution to be a condition of employment when you are acting as an agent of the State. 99% (my estimate) of police officers do absolutely nothing wrong, have nothing to hide from the camera, and are far more likely than not to be exonerated by video-recorded interactions.

 

[Dosproduction]

I disagree with full time body cams. Just plain too much data to sort through. Having to turn it on during anticipated encounters is fine.

dashcams on loops are fine to be constantly on with easy ability to save data from encounters. 24x7 recording is not reasonable.

depso, how does the officer poop? If he stops by his house, should that be live fed?

take a stab in the dark and say you are a cop or ex cop?

 

[atvdave]

Most areas don't have the bandwidth available that would require and the costs would be crazy.

That's understandable, but there needs to be a safe guard as to where the video can not be turned off, or deleted during a public encounter. That would not only help the public but also help the officer.

 

[Dosproduction]

How about ANY person that receives tax dollars, while working, is denied right to privacy? Cameras everywhere.

Yes if you are a government employee then you have a obligation to the employer IE. Taxpayer. I would be all for getting rid of 90% of government employees and change them into private corporations who then would not be on this system. But in reality it is only the politicians and the people enforcing the word of the politicians that should be filmed. The garbage man is not In direct power to step on peoples rights like the politicians and the cops.

And for a follow up with hoosierdoc when the cop uses the washroom the cam can be put facing the door outside the bathroom so when he exits he has to put it back on or something. And he should not be stopping by his house on tax dollars.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Yes if you are a government employee then you have a obligation to the employer IE. Taxpayer. I would be all for getting rid of 90% of government employees and change them into private corporations who then would not be on this system. But in reality it is only the politicians and the people enforcing the word of the politicians that should be filmed. The garbage man is not In direct power to step on peoples rights like the politicians and the cops.

And for a follow up with hoosierdoc when the cop uses the washroom the cam can be put facing the door outside the bathroom so when he exits he has to put it back on or something. And he should not be stopping by his house on tax dollars.

If you receive ANY govt dollars, your life should be an open book while using or earning those dollars. If you want to do this, let's not single out cops, let get everybody on board.