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  • churchmouse

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    Figured her campaign would self destruct before or early in the primaries. Just waiting for big money to move away at this point and it's over for her. The clinton's will do well in the dc machine though, even political hacks like carol browner can make 5 million a year in a dc law/lobby firm. People whine about the 1%, you'll find a lot of it in dc, leadership getting richer every day courtesy of your tax money.

    Why else would they be there.

    It is most certainly not because they care for we the people.
     

    whiteoak

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    It's to early to really tell anything, There has not yet been a Democratic Candidate Debate. To many times a "front runner" had made a bad showing in a debate and ended the campaign. Hillary has not yet put Bill out to rally support, and although I don't like him, he is a force to contend with in the process. I suspect when she is in real trouble Bill will be on TV every day pushing the idea that Hillary can replicate his success in the Whitehouse. He will use his friendship with the Bush Family to make the Clintons look like they are the ones who can work across the isles, And a lot of people will bite. JMHO. I also don't think Trump will be the Rep candidate...
     

    Leadeye

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    A good political attack ad would be to post bill's news conference denying having sex with Monica Lewinsky, and hilly's claim that she did nothing wrong with her e-mails.

    The clinton's, haven't we had enough of the same old stuff.
     

    oldpink

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    Obama is a socialist, and so was Bush. Sanders has the self-awareness to call himself what he actually is.

    He would be a fine president. Better than Obama. Better than Clinton. Better than Trump or the next Bush.

    Take a wide enough view and the argument can be made that all government is inherently socialist. I want a government that actually does the few things it is supposed to do. Right now the Republicans spend all their time in office breaking the federal government so they can spend campaign season talking about how broken the government is. The Democrats only offer one solution: More government.

    Look at Sanders' voting record...he's been on the right side of a lot of important votes.

    Sanders is a flawed guy, a human being...he isn't the devil...and he's a known quantity. Heck, I think the last 6 years would have been better with Bernie!

    Right, and I recall back in the 1980s and 1990s how openly calling yourself a socialist or claiming that a socialist would be preferable was the sort of thing to get a person roundly ridiculed.
    How far have we sunk today?
     

    Grease

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    Right, and I recall back in the 1980s and 1990s how openly calling yourself a socialist or claiming that a socialist would be preferable was the sort of thing to get a person roundly ridiculed.
    How far have we sunk today?

    It turns my stomach to see people in America so easily accepting socialism and socialist candidates. I saw an idiot with a "Bernie 2016" sticker on his car today.

    i just wonder who the heck is going to pay for all these great things ol Bernie wants to give to people.....
     

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    Hilly is socialism with a man hating face, but willing to deal with big money.

    That's the dirty little secret though, isn't it? Socialists are no different than any other politician...they're all willing to deal with big money and make sure they get their cut of it.
     

    jgreiner

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    As somebody that doesn't want another democrat to win again, I hope she is the candidate. Somebody like Biden would be tougher to beat. He's likable. Hillary's not. Like it or not, a lot of people choose their candidate based on how well they like them as a person.

    Biden would shoot himself in the foot. Literally.
     

    Twangbanger

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    Right, and I recall back in the 1980s and 1990s how openly calling yourself a socialist or claiming that a socialist would be preferable was the sort of thing to get a person roundly ridiculed.
    How far have we sunk today?

    I agree. But I'd also bet many of the people doing the ridiculing back then would have thought nothing of blindly supporting their Union's endorsed slate of Democratic politicians, which was usually little different in terms of policies. Socialism has always been around, at least back to the 1800s here, the trick was just finding the right name to call it.

    You know what a Democrat (usually) is? A Socialist without the votes.
     

    Spear Dane

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    It turns my stomach to see people in America so easily accepting socialism and socialist candidates. I saw an idiot with a "Bernie 2016" sticker on his car today.

    i just wonder who the heck is going to pay for all these great things ol Bernie wants to give to people.....


    " A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
     

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    On the other hand, I have never seen a rich man give up his assets in order to receive SNAP assistance from the government. Who are we kidding? The game has always been tilted in favor of the rich and will continue to be so in the future.
     

    churchmouse

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    On the other hand, I have never seen a rich man give up his assets in order to receive SNAP assistance from the government. Who are we kidding? The game has always been tilted in favor of the rich and will continue to be so in the future.

    Bingo.

    Who fills those deep war chests.
     

    KG1

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    That's the dirty little secret though, isn't it? Socialists are no different than any other politician...they're all willing to deal with big money and make sure they get their cut of it.
    The problem with the dems is that they try to present themselves as anything other than part of the big money cabal. Some people fall for that canard.
     

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    ^^^^^^^BBI gets it! Anything and anyone associated with those people , you should trust completely.


    It turns my stomach to see people in America so easily accepting socialism and socialist candidates. I saw an idiot with a "Bernie 2016" sticker on his car today.

    i just wonder who the heck is going to pay for all these great things ol Bernie wants to give to people.....

    I see that sticker dozens of times per week. Yikes! Mostly on a Prius. Or whould that be on Priui?
     
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