High points are definitely not the nicest looking guns. They are an option for those on a budget but I would still be inclined to direct a person to other budget guns such as Bersa or the Canik TP9SA. Pay a little more and get a gun that is reliable. I always tell people that I will sell them a high point but it wouldn't be my first choice and I personally would depend my life on it. I would never sell one to my family that's for sure ;-)