SP5 Thread

[Aszerigan]

Even just owning the stock can be considered "constructive possion" by the ATF.
That means that if they can, they will try to prove that by owning the stock without an approved tax stamp, you are planning to make an unapproved sbr in violation to the law.
It doesn't happen often, but if they wanted to, they could, and would pursue it and if convicted it is a felony.
Just having it in your possession, even if never mounted, can trigger that charge, if they choose to.
Personally, I don't trust the ATF at all so, until the law changes, and I believe it will down the road, I follow the letter of the law.
It's just not worth risking the consequences.

If you don't have the submitted paperwork, yes. If you do then they generally won't bother with it since it shows intent to keep legal.

Kind of like having a receipt for renewing your car registration. Even though you don't have the registration certificate, it shows intent to renew and payment so you're good to go.

 

[Aszerigan]

Box 4H is what you have engraved on the gun, wait for the stamp to come back as approved before engraving.

Nope. Make sure the engraving is done before the stamp is approved. If it comes back approved and it's not engraved, it's already an improperly manufactured / non-manufacture marked firearm which is no bueno.

Ten years ago, I ran into this with the ATF with unbuilt SBR receivers and got my hand slapped. They weren't anything, not even built yet, but approved on a form 2 (a dealer's manufacturer form). Before that serial number hits the registry, it needs to be engraved even if its still in its pistol configuration, receiver, what have you.

 

[Aszerigan]

I suppose you can own the stock but not assemble it to completion as an sbr until the approval is confirmed

See my reply above. Yes with stipulations.

 

[Dean C.]

Nope. Make sure the engraving is done before the stamp is approved. If it comes back approved and it's not engraved, it's already an improperly manufactured / non-manufacture marked firearm which is no bueno.

Ten years ago, I ran into this with the ATF with unbuilt SBR receivers and got my hand slapped. They weren't anything, not even built yet, but approved on a form 2 (a dealer's manufacturer form). Before that serial number hits the registry, it needs to be engraved even if its still in its pistol configuration, receiver, what have you.

Not doubting you , and I had mine engraved before the stamp (hard to do with 3 day turn around). That being said I had several people tell me to wait till the stamp was approved so you know the engraving is “correct”. Because TBH I was not 100% sure if I needed my middle name on the gun or not (I did not).

 

[NyleRN]

Not doubting you , and I had mine engraved before the stamp (hard to do with 3 day turn around). That being said I had several people tell me to wait till the stamp was approved so you know the engraving is “correct”. Because TBH I was not 100% sure if I needed my middle name on the gun or not (I did not).

The engraving should be exactly the name of your trust. You did a trust right?

 

[WebSnyper]

I will keep the thread updated , this one is going straight to the president of B&T USA apparently. Very interested to see how B&T handles this problem.

Definitely interested to hear how they handle this as well.

 

[tradertator]

Form 4’d mine during the brace thing.

B&T forward grip, formed, T2 QD, and claw mount. Can’t decide between the A2 or A3 stock, both are great. Wilderness Ghiles sling to keep it old school.

 

[Dean C.]

The engraving should be exactly the name of your trust. You did a trust right?

Negative no trust