Something to think about.

[flagtag]

flagtag, I never figured you did, I was only thanking the people that did vote for him, but now that you answered, I can't help but think that maybe you secretly wanted to vote for he that we will not name!!!

Well, now, them there are FIGHTING WORDS, bub! Prepare for your doom! :do2:

 

[Cwood]

Well, now, them there are FIGHTING WORDS, bub! Prepare for your doom! :do2:

opcorn2:

 

[flagtag]

opcorn2:

Are you going to sell tickets too?

 

[Dogman]

Are you going to sell tickets too?

Yeah, sell tickets, then we can buy new guns, and more ammo .

 

[Bill of Rights]

What I find odd is that you are trying to justify marginalizing and belittling other people, that seems to be what the KKK did, what Hitler did, and what many other hate mongers do. I don't understand why we can't elevate ourselves above that sort of thing.

The difference is that the Blacks did not send against the KKK, nor the Jews against Hitler, suicide bombers nor "fatwahs" calling for the latters' destruction or enslavement.

I'm no Bible scholar, nor Koran, nor Torah. I do know hate, having been it's target in the past.

I`ve been told, and no, I never have, nor ever will read it for myself, that the koran instructs that all non-muslims are to be killed.

The muslim population in general appears to be extremely aggressive, hostile, and bloodthirsty. For example, plotting to murder an English school teacher who allowed her elementary school class to call a stuffed bear, mohammed. As it appears when, they take to the streets, protesting and plotting the death of a newspaper cartoonist because he penned a cartoon they found offensive to mohammad.

All that being said, I`ve yet to see, read, or hear about ANY muslim outrage, protest, or denouncement of the attacks that happened here on 9-11.

Nor have I read any denouncements. I do recall that Hitler had the British PM (Chamberlain?) convinced that he'd brokered peace with the Nazis-just before the air raids started.

This is a very narrow-minded viewpoint. A very small percentage of Muslims are "extremely aggressive, hostile, and bloodthirsty." It's been a while since I looked up the data, but the last I remember, it was only about 2%. Non-Islamic religions have their fair share of extremists, as well.
...And honestly, tell me how you feel about the centuries of holy crusades and Inquisitions that happened in Christian history?


Just to clarify, I am not Muslim, nor do I have the desire to be, but many of their members are just as peaceable (or maybe more so) as you and I.

Is it narrow? Perhaps it is. Speaking for myself, I condemn the actions of those so-called Christians in the Crusades as much as I do the actions of those today who firebomb places that do business with which they disagree, who proclaim God's "hate" for any of His creations or creatures, etc.

I've told the story that on the old PDO forums, I interacted with a poster who called me a "Left Liberal Democrat Socialist Fascist" because I replied to his post saying that I would not shoot-on-sight anyone who appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent who happened to be leaning against a doorway up the street from where I happened to be standing. His claim was that as a "good Muslim", that man must either convert, enslave, or kill me, or he must deny his religious teachings, and therefore, if I wished to protect myself, my family, and my country, I must shoot him before he shoots me.

My take on this was that the man is simply leaning against a doorway. IF he comes out with an AK and points it at someone innocent, I'll put a round or two in his chest, yes, but not just for standing there.

And yes, I pointed out the mutual exclusivity of Socialism and Fascism.

It's also worth noting, the Koran requires non Muslims be taxed, if they will not convert. Only those who have believed and then shun their religion are to be executed is my understanding from more moderate sources.

Of course the extremists are crazy. But what Fundamental Religious group isn't.

Crazy. And very visible.

I agree! I believe that the majority of them feel as we do - and want peace for themselves and their children. I do believe that more of them would speak out against the radicals except for the fear of reprisals from the few.

e.g. Salman Rushdie?

I'm reminded of the song "Russians" by Sting. It was written back when Ronald Reagan was president and included the lines, "Believe me when I say to you/ I hope the Russians love their children, too." The Russians never taught their children, either directly or by example, that to martyr oneself and kill large groups of one's enemy in the process earned a reward in Heaven.

flagtag, I never figured you did, I was only thanking the people that did vote for him, but now that you answered, I can't help but think that maybe you secretly wanted to vote for he that we will not name!!!

B'Harnee?

Blessings,
B

 

[SavageEagle]

One question hasn't been answered. Where does it in Revelations, or the bible period, talk about a person who is Muslin or comes from Muslim land being the anti-Christ? Maybe its not saying Muslim, but someone who comes from Muslim Holy Land? There's too many what-ifs there, but I just wanna know where exactly in the Bible it talks about this? I haven't read MUCH of the Bible but I have read some. I've also read some of some other Holy books ranging from the Koran to Wiccian. Makes you really think about alot of stuff.

This is a good thread. Lot of good thoughts and questions in this one...

opcorn2:

 

[flagtag]

Yeah, sell tickets, then we can buy new guns, and more ammo .

Just don't forget my "kick-back"!

 

[Cwood]

Yeah, sell tickets, then we can buy new guns, and more ammo .

Just don't forget my "kick-back"!

As the proud sponsor and ticket seller of said event there is no pay out for the contestants only ammon and range time for the winner!

:do2:

 

[JetGirl]

One question hasn't been answered. Where does it in Revelations, or the bible period, talk about a person who is Muslin or comes from Muslim land being the anti-Christ? Maybe its not saying Muslim, but someone who comes from Muslim Holy Land? There's too many what-ifs there, but I just wanna know where exactly in the Bible it talks about this? I haven't read MUCH of the Bible but I have read some. I've also read some of some other Holy books ranging from the Koran to Wiccian. Makes you really think about alot of stuff.

This is a good thread. Lot of good thoughts and questions in this one...

opcorn2:

I'm not sure why people say Obama is/will be the Anti-Christ.

Revelation 17 talks about (figuratively IMO) the Anti-Christ having 7 heads and 10 horns, and the context would translate into the 7 heads actually being mountains. Jerusalem is built on 7 hills.
I would guess that since the Anti-Christ will be trying to deceive people into believing that he is "the Christ", he'd have to come from the same place Christ did to fulfill the prophecies about where Christ was born. Also, Daniel alludes to the lineage of Anti-Christ being Jewish because he'll come out of the 4 kingdoms left by Alexander the Great (Egypt, Syria, Persia, or Turkey - thus the lineage).
Not that I'm an eschatologist or anything (nor have I gone through seminary)... I just like to investigate things I find and I've read several different versions of the Bible cover to cover (sometimes side by side or with an inner linear Greek for the New Testament).
That's my anyhow. YMMV

 

[NateIU10]

Anti-Christ being Jewish

OH NO, IT COULD BE MEEEEE

RUNNNNN!!!!

 

[JetGirl]

OH NO, IT COULD BE MEEEEE

RUNNNNN!!!!

LOL!!!
Bonus points for bringin' da funneh!!

 

[NateIU10]

And so I do actually contribute to this thread, I found this on the all-knowing Snopes:

snopes.com: Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?

 

[flagtag]

As the proud sponsor and ticket seller of said event there is no pay out for the contestants only ammon and range time for the winner!

:do2:

You MIGHT want to reconsider that.....

 

[Cwood]

Im not worried i have them for security and a whole army of

Take your idle threats elsewhere

 

[flagtag]

Im not worried i have them for security and a whole army of

Take your idle threats elsewhere

:rolleyesedit: yawn. :rolleyesedit:

 

[Cwood]

 

[flagtag]

 

[Steelman]

I saw something on the Discovery Channel about the Anti-Christ.

The author of Revelations was "John"

"John" was imprisoned by Nero Caesar.

The name of the beast or anti-christ was a number: 666

The Discovery Channel claimed that ancient Hebrew numerology identified each symbol with a number and that you could translate the numerical value of "Nero Caesar" to "six hundred sixty-six".

No idea if it's true, but if I was imprisoned unjustly I would probably say bad things about the warden, too.

 

[DocGlock86]

I don't believe that he is the anti christ. But my biggest problem is and what shocks me the most is how can I vote for someone who can't even place his hand on his heart when saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I understand the fact that it's his religion but that is what this country is founded on. That is what hundreds and thousands of troups has died for. If you don't believe in that and have the respect to place your hand on your heart when saying it then you don't have a right to run this country. That is one of the few reasons I'm really worried about this years election

 

[flagtag]

I don't believe that he is the anti christ. But my biggest problem is and what shocks me the most is how can I vote for someone who can't even place his hand on his heart when saying the Pledge of Allegiance. I understand the fact that it's his religion but that is what this country is founded on. That is what hundreds and thousands of troups has died for. If you don't believe in that and have the respect to place your hand on your heart when saying it then you don't have a right to run this country. That is one of the few reasons I'm really worried about this years election

That's what gets me also. (one of the things) He won't show respect for the FLAG, NATIONAL ANTHEM, CONSTITUTION, or the COUNTRY as a whole, nor it's PEOPLE, yet he seems to think he has a right to run this country under the color of the Flag, and at the same time REFUSES to PLEDGE his Allegiance to that
Flag which represents our country. This tells me that he has NO interest in honestly protecting our country.
What would happen if it ever came time to SWEAR (AFFIRM) the OATH of OFFICE of President of the United States of America?
If he spits on everything that represents our country, NOW, how could we depend on him to "honorably discharge his duties" when he has shown that he has no respect for anything that this country stands for?
The OATH of OFFICE would mean no more to him than anything else that is our country!