Silver Creek USPSA , April 12th, 2015

[Grelber]

Dan I think the electronic scoring needs to stay but with some backup.
Like we talked after the match a spreadsheet to copy scores to.
Here are my thoughts which may only be worth what they cost
Shooter signs up and entered into the kindle an is handed a score sheet.
This score sheet can be generic and not match specific.
Shooter fills out the score sheet with Name, USPSA #, Division, Class, Major or Minor
Score sheet has stage # and columns for A,B,C,D, Miss, Procedural, No Penalty Mike, Time, and Hit Factor.
Clip board on first stage score sheets are put in a shooting order.
Clip board stays at back of the bay.
Shooter shoots and then after scored goes to the clip board and SHOOTER will write the scores on his score sheet.
The person with the Kindle will read them off ( from the review page)to the shooter and make sure the shooter copies them down correctly.
Shooter then takes score sheet and put on the bottom of the stack and calls out the next 3 shooters.
The shooter filling out the score sheet will solve several problems.
The shooter will know his results without having to bother the person running the kindle and making them go back several screens to tell them their time or hits.
Shooter knows that a time has been recorded and is right as the next shooter has not been started and timer is still available for review.
Everyone else on the squad has access to the score sheet to keep track of their HF and buddies HF without bothering the person running the kindle.
Someone wanting the shooting order just needs to go look at the sheets on the clip board and not bother the person running the kindle.
These score sheets are for backup but if something happens like yesterday you have them.
If the shooter writes their name or scores so that they are not readable then that is on them.

When you consider that the original concept was to make things easier, this is starting to look a whole lot like a government program.

 

[Seancass]

For anyone who wants a really looong, casual look at two stages from this weekend at SCCC, here's a couple of vids. There's so much I don't like about my runs, but hey, I'll just have to go back and try again. I'm really glad I have video to watch, a few things I didn't know I was doing.

[video=youtube;BdsltqObqeo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdsltqObqeo[/video]

[video=youtube;sq1p1RVKU-U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq1p1RVKU-U[/video]

It was kind of fun though! I told a friend I just went slow so I got the most value out of my entry fee.

Forgot to mention: Thanks to everybody who helped put this on, especially the poor guys dealing with computer troubles. Overall, it was a great match!

 

[sporter]

Sean,
You did great for your first time!

I think your buddy might be heading to WVPPS for next weeks match; You ought to come out!

 

[Bosshoss]

Yes great job Sean. Great to meet another Revolver shooter.
I watched your last stage after we talked and it looked good.
You have a good memory and followed the stage plan to a T.

Stay safe and have fun and everything else will come with time.



BTW it's looking like you won revolver class.
Great way to start you are undefeated.

 

[Seancass]

Ha! Thanks guys!

Paul, I don't remember winning, but you guys were in a different squad and I know my squad was pretty good, so if you say I won, I guess I can't argue that!
We were so good, we had to beat the first stage twice to make sure it knew it was beat!

 

[Bosshoss]

Yeah the rest of the revolver shooters was on the squad that the scores got lost(so far).
So take a win any way you can get them

In USPSA the revolver shooters only shoot against other revolver shooters so it doesn't matter about the shooters shooting auto's.

There isn't a lot of revolver shooters to shoot against so don't tell anyone but I am trying to beat the auto shooters also

 

[Bosshoss]

When you consider that the original concept was to make things easier, this is starting to look a whole lot like a government program.

I never heard that it was supposed to be easier. It just spreads the work around. Instead of one poor soul pounding on a keyboard for hours everyone gets to have fun.
What I suggested above is just adding a failsafe.

Probably the biggest advantage of electronic scoring for the shooters is the result are usually up before they get home instead if several days later when you can't hardly remember the match.

 

[Dog1]

Scores are up for those who did not get deleted.

 

[Dog1]

Dan
I have been messing around with the app, in the Ipad version there is a log that can be created after the shooter completes a stage. I have been messing with it a bit today, i will see if it is available in the android version and let you know.
It may be a simple step for the person running the Kindle to just create the log for instances like this.
Tony

Thanks Tony, I got your email...thanks for trying.

 

[partyboy6686]

Dan I think the electronic scoring needs to stay but with some backup.
Like we talked after the match a spreadsheet to copy scores to.
Here are my thoughts which may only be worth what they cost
Shooter signs up and entered into the kindle an is handed a score sheet.
This score sheet can be generic and not match specific.
Shooter fills out the score sheet with Name, USPSA #, Division, Class, Major or Minor
Score sheet has stage # and columns for A,B,C,D, Miss, Procedural, No Penalty Mike, Time, and Hit Factor.
Clip board on first stage score sheets are put in a shooting order.
Clip board stays at back of the bay.
Shooter shoots and then after scored goes to the clip board and SHOOTER will write the scores on his score sheet.
The person with the Kindle will read them off ( from the review page)to the shooter and make sure the shooter copies them down correctly.
Shooter then takes score sheet and put on the bottom of the stack and calls out the next 3 shooters.
The shooter filling out the score sheet will solve several problems.
The shooter will know his results without having to bother the person running the kindle and making them go back several screens to tell them their time or hits.
Shooter knows that a time has been recorded and is right as the next shooter has not been started and timer is still available for review.
Everyone else on the squad has access to the score sheet to keep track of their HF and buddies HF without bothering the person running the kindle.
Someone wanting the shooting order just needs to go look at the sheets on the clip board and not bother the person running the kindle.
These score sheets are for backup but if something happens like yesterday you have them.
If the shooter writes their name or scores so that they are not readable then that is on them.

This is a really a good idea. I shot a major match this weekend and every stage I shot went into a kindle and on a carbon copy piece of paper. You got 1 copy and the RO kept the other copy.

 

[Seancass]

Scores are up for those who did not get deleted.

Thanks for all the work getting these posted. Really sucks about the tablet glitches.

 

[kevinm]

Wish I remember the time and hit factor for the classifier.

 

[Dog1]

Wish I remember the time and hit factor for the classifier.

You were in the mid 3's on both strings.

 

[Dog1]

Thanks for all the work getting these posted. Really sucks about the tablet glitches.

Thanks..and thanks for coming out. Hope to see you at more matches.

 

[Grelber]

I never heard that it was supposed to be easier. It just spreads the work around. Instead of one poor soul pounding on a keyboard for hours everyone gets to have fun.
What I suggested above is just adding a failsafe.

Probably the biggest advantage of electronic scoring for the shooters is the result are usually up before they get home instead if several days later when you can't hardly remember the match.

Got to thinking more constructive and a smidge less tongue in cheek.

Part of the reason I retired when I did is about glitchy software, computers that break when used in a real world environment, planned hardware / firmware & software obsolescence, the unavoidable occasional end user oopsie, etc. When you get phone calls in the middle of the night & have to wade through those problems it is irritating. Maybe in this case the PITA factor will permanently die, but that would be a rare thing in my experience, in fairness though sometimes there are nice long periods of calm between the storms.

Anyway, why not score on paper & have 1 person per squad transfer the data after the match?

 

[Dog1]

In this case it would not have worked after the match. As soon as the Kindle was "woke" up it deleted the scores.

The guys at Practiscore now know that there is something wrong. They are addressing it and have been posting about in my thread on Brian Enos forum-
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