Silent No More: Taking Back Our Nation, Culture and Children

[Bapak2ja]

I found this a fascinating commentary on how our nation has changed in the past 50 years. It was posted on another forum under the title "A Black Woman's Perspective." I just found it to be wisdom well stated.

http://youtu.be/Q3xuPNvUeL8

Any comments?

 

[phylodog]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Personal responsibility has been replaced with political correctness. Hopefully it'll turn around but as with most downhill spirals, nothing changes until rock bottom is located.

 

[strahd71]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Personal responsibility has been replaced with political correctness. Hopefully it'll turn around but as with most downhill spirals, nothing changes until rock bottom is located.

Very true! I took a socialogy class once ...... spent the whole time pissed off.

Jake

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

My survey level sociology class was in Ball State's Teachers College. With about two hundred others. I still found it fascinating.

 

[handgun]

The downward spiral is picking up speed.. Everyone is afraid of making some sap butt hurt..

 

[Bapak2ja]

How does one correct the problem? The indoctrination really takes place in the public elementary and secondary schools. So should we withdraw our kids from public schools, to ensure they are trained properly to think, reason and be responsible rather than be indoctrinated to the socialism mentality?

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

Or do we accept the teaching and counter the arguments by supplementing that education at home?... Bapak2ja. this is a discussion that I find is popping up more and more around the ArmedProgrammer household.... Currently doing the "supplement" route, but another straw or two and the camel may need a chiropractor....

 

[Bapak2ja]

Raised my first two in Indonesia with home schooling and boarding school. Then public high school in Fort Wayne. Raised the youngest in private school in Fort Wayne and jamaica. All three have done well. One professional engineer, one US Marine officer, one wife and mother of three great kids.

I do not think I could put a kid in public school today in Fort Wayne. I would consider Northwest Allen County Schools, or the Northeast Allen County Schools, but I would be very careful about what was taught. Like you, ArmedProgrammer, I would be watching for that last straw constantly.

It is a very serious matter because the school system sets the presuppositions for the children. If the foundations are wrong, the structure will be flawed. Serious issue.

 

[buckstopshere]

Or do we accept the teaching and counter the arguments by supplementing that education at home?... Bapak2ja. this is a discussion that I find is popping up more and more around the ArmedProgrammer household.... Currently doing the "supplement" route, but another straw or two and the camel may need a chiropractor....

I know what you mean AP. we are constantly having to reframe what our 9 yo is learning. I've had a chat with her teacher every year and went as far as having a sit down with the principle after her homework assignment was to read a whort book and answer a few questions. Supposed to be about reading comprehension.

The story centers on a grandfatherly day laborer and his grandson. They're day laborers because they're in the country illegally and the story was about how hard they worked for what little they had but they were grateful. The American "employer" was fair, tolerant and accepting.

The questions of course were things like, what kind of flowers were they planting, why did they have to replant, etc...

Principle listened, didn't disagree but said ultimately as a principle he has little control over the curriculum due to state and federal regs and the teachers union.

It's subtle, but it's their. Each passing year the indoctrination becomes less subtle because there aren't enough parents b****ing about the junk being taught.

Home school keeps looking better.

 

[jayhawk]

I recently visited Japan, which has a much different social culture then we do in the US. I was certainly happy to get back home, but there are a couple of things that I took away from learning about the differences in our cultures:

1) Respect. The Japanese are very respectful to others, but they are not politically correct at all. In fact, they can be pretty blunt. It seems that in the US, we have replaced respect with political correctness. They are not the same.

2) Sensitivity. In Japan, people rarely complain, especially publicly. It's an interesting aspect of their culture. Some complaining, of course, is good and necessary, but in the US we seem to take it to an extreme. We complain about everything (no matter the demographic), as a culture we have thin skin. We seem to pride ourselves on being persecuted, and aire grievances about the smallest trivialities.

I don't think there is any demographic in the US that is not guilty of "the culture of blame"...it seems to be quite ubiquitous.

And I'll add another general observation:

3) Anger. If you find philosophical of political discussion making you angry or pissing you off. Grow up.
Here's a secret: There is no reason to ever be angry. It only affects you.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

How does one correct the problem? The indoctrination really takes place in the public elementary and secondary schools. So should we withdraw our kids from public schools, to ensure they are trained properly to think, reason and be responsible rather than be indoctrinated to the socialism mentality?

Or do we accept the teaching and counter the arguments by supplementing that education at home?... Bapak2ja. this is a discussion that I find is popping up more and more around the ArmedProgrammer household.... Currently doing the "supplement" route, but another straw or two and the camel may need a chiropractor....

We encountered this question with our son when he entered First Grade in Texas back in 1980. Although we had done the best we could to get him into a highly-rated public school system - we couldn't afford to put him in a Catholic school because we both had to work - we immediately discovered he was learning things contrary to our philosophy and faith teachings, so we did what I believe all parents should be doing, we discussed the various ways school teachings differed from ours and we encouraged him to reason things out for himself while ensuring he understood why we held our beliefs. We had been largely treating him like a small adult even while he was a baby - intellectually speaking, so as he grew up, he did develop his own take on things which largely, though not completely, agreed with ours.

I freely concede this might not have worked had we been able to have more children - because I remember what my younger brother was like - but I think the best thing we can do for our children is to teach them our values and help them to understand and to value the need for thinking for themselves instead of following the herd blindly.

 

[Bapak2ja]

I think the best thing we can do for our children is to teach them our values and help them to understand and to value the need for thinking for themselves instead of following the herd blindly.

Great advice. Bet you raised a great kid!

 

[cobber]

I recently visited Japan, which has a much different social culture then we do in the US. I was certainly happy to get back home, but there are a couple of things that I took away from learning about the differences in our cultures:

1) Respect. The Japanese are very respectful to others, but they are not politically correct at all. In fact, they can be pretty blunt. It seems that in the US, we have replaced respect with political correctness. They are not the same.

2) Sensitivity. In Japan, people rarely complain, especially publicly. It's an interesting aspect of their culture. Some complaining, of course, is good and necessary, but in the US we seem to take it to an extreme. We complain about everything (no matter the demographic), as a culture we have thin skin. We seem to pride ourselves on being persecuted, and aire grievances about the smallest trivialities.

Ditto re China, although perhaps a wee bit less in both. No PC at all (except with reference to the Party, of course).