Should we eliminate the electoral college??

[traderdan]

Those same progressives would be dead set against it had the election gone the other way. Immature children who want to throw a fit and change the rules after the game was lost.

Had Donald been in Hillary's position, MANY Trump voters would have been screaming for elections by popular vote.

 

[traderdan]

If the topic has been covered...tell me the thread.I am not online much.

 

[2A_Tom]

Had Donald been in Hillary's position, MANY Trump voters would have been screaming for elections by popular vote.

You are correct and they would be wrong too.

 

[Jludo]

Had Donald been in Hillary's position, MANY Trump voters would have been screaming for elections by popular vote.

This is the truth, I cant imagine the debate would be the same had the tables been turned now and in 2000

 

[rhino]

Direct democracy is the classic two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.

 

[OakRiver]

We are a country of states, a constitutional republic - not a pure democracy. Those states have a say in nominating the President based on the size of their population. On account of this the popular vote, in each state, plays its part. Otherwise in a nation of 50 states we would be beholden to the whims of 3-4 and the concerns of the rest of the country moot while politicians court the king maker states.

Talk of eliminating the electoral college system is nothing more than sour grapes from people still reeling from their candidate's loss. Prior to the election these same people were telling us how important the very system them are now protesting is to how our country functions.

If you lose the game it is generally considered poor form to complain about the rules after.

 

[Jludo]

I'm curious if the electoral college members didn't vote according to their states will and gave Hilary the win we would all still agree the electoral college is the best system, correct?

 

[Cameramonkey]

The counties in blue contain over 50% of the US population. Switch to a popular vote and those blue counties will rule the election from that point forward. Live in a grey county? Tough cookies. You'll always lose and you can forget even bothering to run your non D presidential candidates.

(Blue is also heavily Democrat/Liberal bed wetters)

 

[Leadeye]

Give each candidate a baseball bat and a garbage can lid, sell tickets on pay per view, last person standing is pres.

 

[traderdan]

The counties in blue contain over 50% of the US population. Switch to a popular vote and those blue counties will rule the election from that point forward. Live in a grey county? Tough cookies. You'll always lose and you can forget even bothering to run your non D presidential candidates.

(Blue is also heavily Democrat/Liberal bed wetters)

Yes...I know this. Have known it for years...HOWEVER...being very suspicious of the president elect, and his knowledge, and very, very suspicious of the statesmanship of most of the Republicans in Congress, I wonder how true conservatives will counter the push that is coming for CHANGE....

 

[2A_Tom]

I'm curious if the electoral college members didn't vote according to their states will and gave Hilary the win we would all still agree the electoral college is the best system, correct?

I heard there are nine unbound electors that have committed to vote for Hillary in spite of their voters going for Thump. There are only a few States that give their electors this option.

I believe that all electors should be bound to vote according to their voters wishes, but there goes that pesky 10th Amendment.

 

[2A_Tom]

being very suspicious of the president elect, and his knowledge, .

It does not seem you have been paying attention the last couple of days.

and very, very suspicious of the statesmanship of most of the Republicans in Congress,

It doesn't seem that you have been paying attention the last 8 years.

I wonder how true conservatives will counter the push that is coming for CHANGE....

It dosent seem yoy have been paying attention the last 18 months.













Is that a hammer you have behind your back CM?

 

[Blackhawk2001]

But for sake of argument; What if we required legal ID in all state. What if reliance on the social services would eliminate voters?

Although "poll taxes" were ruled illegal - they were used to disenfranchise poor whites and blacks in the South - there _IS_ a rationale for them: a voter who lives off the government teat is not going to vote against that government. Requiring a citizen to be a taxpayer, for instance, ensures that he "has skin in the game" rather than someone who makes their whole living off government handouts.

 

[Jludo]

I heard there are nine unbound electors that have committed to vote for Hillary in spite of their voters going for Thump. There are only a few States that give their electors this option.

I believe that all electors should be bound to vote according to their voters wishes, but there goes that pesky 10th Amendment.

According to wiki over half the states don't have laws against faithless electors. But if I'm reading correctly we want straight democracy on a state level for the electors but we want a states size and population to be balanced in how many electors they get.

 

[phylodog]

Had Donald been in Hillary's position, MANY Trump voters would have been screaming for elections by popular vote.

Eventually perhaps, the initial screaming would have been about voter fraud and voting by those not qualified.

 

[Jludo]

Eventually perhaps, the initial screaming would have been about voter fraud and voting by those not qualified.

Was there ever any actual evidence of this? I never saw it but at the same time I don't think a Trump supporter claiming it and I would ever agree upon a reliable source.

 

[phylodog]

Plenty of talk about it but I haven't seen evidence. There's plenty about it making the rounds on FB but I don't consider those reliable sources.

 

[Greyson]

Was there ever any actual evidence of this? I never saw it but at the same time I don't think a Trump supporter claiming it and I would ever agree upon a reliable source.

Sometimes, we need to read a little from the news to stay current...

State Police raid Indy office in growing voter fraud case

 

[churchmouse]

But for sake of argument; What if we required legal ID in all state. What if reliance on the social services would eliminate voters?

Still no.

Voter ID would have eliminated maybe a million of Killery's votes.....

 

[KLB]

OK...I give. I was hoping to stir up some discussion concerning what you all believe a legal voter should be...The electoral college system will be challenged, and probably sooner rather than later.

That would take a constitutional amendment. I don't see that happening.