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  • yyyyyy123

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    Yup, none of their business. I think if they want Obama, it obvious who we should vote for, McCain ;) They are not looking at our best interest.

    So does that mean Iraqis and Afghanis can tell us to get the hell out of their country? (Hint: Yes, it does).


    :rolleyes:Liberals want to tell everyone how to do everything(just ask them), liberals I belive think those that don't believe or think like they themselves are stupid or ignorant. Meaning your not smart enough, your not cultured enough, your not liberal enough. I don't like it when a liberal confuses my rights as a citizen of The United States under the Constitution with the rights of a foreign nation, a subject not a citizen, You want to live your life as you see fit by all means do so. Just don't tell me what to do, don't tell me I have to pay for what you as a liberal on some social issues think is right.
    Your so called social issues are still SOCIALISM.:rockwoot:
    :draw: :draw:
    Here, let me fix this for you:
    Liberals want to tell everyone how to do everything (just ask them). I believe liberals think those that don't believe or think like themselves are stupid or ignorant. Meaning you're not smart enough, you're not cultured enough, and you're not liberal enough. I don't like it when a liberal confuses my rights as a citizen of The United States under the Constitution with the rights of a foreign nation. If you want to live your life as you see fit, by all means, do so. Just don't tell me what to do; don't tell me I have to pay for what you, as a liberal, think is right on some social issues.
    Your so called social issues are still SOCIALISM.

    I had no idea what that little "a subject not a citizen" part meant so I just cut it out.
    As for the main thrust of your post: yeah, sure. Nobody should tell you what to do with your life if it's not directly harming others. The funny thing about that last little line there is that Republicans tend to be the main offenders as of late. Things like trying to ban abortion, "faith-based" initiatives using taxes, and random wars on the other side of the world are a trifle more expensive than, well, what is it that liberals have been trying to spend all your money on lately? I've been paying attention to the trillions of war debt we have, so I must've missed it. Sorry!

    Also, tip: if you're going to try to argue over a text-based medium, it happens to be quite important to properly elucidate your ideas. This includes correct spelling and grammar.
     

    mar_2343

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    So does that mean Iraqis and Afghanis can tell us to get the hell out of their country? (Hint: Yes, it does).



    Here, let me fix this for you:


    I had no idea what that little "a subject not a citizen" part meant so I just cut it out.
    As for the main thrust of your post: yeah, sure. Nobody should tell you what to do with your life if it's not directly harming others. The funny thing about that last little line there is that Republicans tend to be the main offenders as of late. Things like trying to ban abortion, "faith-based" initiatives using taxes, and random wars on the other side of the world are a trifle more expensive than, well, what is it that liberals have been trying to spend all your money on lately? I've been paying attention to the trillions of war debt we have, so I must've missed it. Sorry!

    Also, tip: if you're going to try to argue over a text-based medium, it happens to be quite important to properly elucidate your ideas. This includes correct spelling and grammar.
     

    Bigum1969

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    Actually, I am a liberal on a lot of social issues!

    Getting upset that people outside the United States have an interest in this election is absurd. There's nothing that says people from outside this country can't make suggestions on how people should vote. Everyone in the world should be paying close attention to this election, as it will change the course of this country and by extension the rest of the world, for better or for worse.

    There's nothing that says people from outside this country can't make suggestions on how people should vote?

    Holy cow.

    Why don't we just let the UN membership take a vote. :dunno:

    I don't really care that people outside the US follow our election with interest. But I also don't give a :poop: what they think.
     
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    Holy cow.

    I'd bet damn good money that the average citizen in Iraq cares more about this election than the average citizen in the USA. They have an interest in what occurs in this election, just like everyone else around the world. We are still the world's #1 superpower, and whether you like it or not we have a global responsibility to respect the sovereignty of other nations and be a global citizen for good, not running around fabricating evidence for a war that costs the American Taxpayer many, many thousands a day and killing unknown numbers of Iraqi, Afghani, and now Pakistani civilians.

    Indiana isn't the center of the USA, and it sure isn't the center of the world. If you expand your horizons beyond your day to day life here at the crossroads of America, you might just see that some concern for the global society can go a long way.

    I, too, choose to ignore what non-US citizens have to say about this election, but that doesn't mean I don't support their right to voice their opinion. The Internet is a wonderful thing, bringing us closer to different cultures, ideas, and opinions, and I use it daily for just that purpose.



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    mar_2343

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    Now it's really nice to show your blue colors,;) I'm not a global citizen I am an American citizen,:patriot: born bred in The U.S. I don't care about you're global citizen registry. Do I wish we as in the US had not went into he middle east you can bet your sweet BLUE berries on that. I don't see how leaving your precious IRAQ as we did in the FAR east 30 or so years ago, is going to make it better now. you can bank on the fact the minute we leave (I'm A Nut Job ) in Iran is going to fill that void and crazy as it sound Saddam kept that crazy sand jockey at bay that 's my reason for not going in there. Afghanistan different matter all together that where the threat was. I don't care if that place gets scraped off the planet. You're worried about the civilians in 3 countries but forgot to mention our citizen's that are in those countries. Where do those supposed rights you mention about foreign citizen come from at all, not from the same place mine were inherited from
     
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    Bigum1969

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    I'd bet damn good money that the average citizen in Iraq cares more about this election than the average citizen in the USA. They have an interest in what occurs in this election, just like everyone else around the world. We are still the world's #1 superpower, and whether you like it or not we have a global responsibility to respect the sovereignty of other nations and be a global citizen for good, not running around fabricating evidence for a war that costs the American Taxpayer many, many thousands a day and killing unknown numbers of Iraqi, Afghani, and now Pakistani civilians.

    Indiana isn't the center of the USA, and it sure isn't the center of the world. If you expand your horizons beyond your day to day life here at the crossroads of America, you might just see that some concern for the global society can go a long way.

    I, too, choose to ignore what non-US citizens have to say about this election, but that doesn't mean I don't support their right to voice their opinion. The Internet is a wonderful thing, bringing us closer to different cultures, ideas, and opinions, and I use it daily for just that purpose.



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    I'm pretty aware of the fact that Indiana is not the center of the universe. I grew up and attended college in Southern California and lived in Denver for 10 years. My horizons are actually surprisingly broad.

    And, what do you mean support their right to vote? How exactly are you going to support that right?
     
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    And, what do you mean support their right to vote? How exactly are you going to support that right?

    I, too, choose to ignore what non-US citizens have to say about this election, but that doesn't mean I don't support their right to voice their opinion.

    Read that again and tell me where I supported the ability of non-US citizens to vote in a US election. Go ahead, i'll wait. It's a damn shame I wasn't born on U.S. Soil, I could never be president!


    Now it's really nice to show your blue colors,;) I'm not a global citizen I am an American citizen,:patriot: born bred in The U.S. I don't care about you're global citizen registry. Do I wish we as in the US had not went into he middle east you can bet your sweet BLUE berries on that. I don't see how leaving your precious IRAQ as we did in the FAR east 30 or so years ago, is going to make it better now. you can bank on the fact the minute we leave (I'm A Nut Job ) in Iran is going to fill that void and crazy as it sound Saddam kept that crazy sand jockey at bay that 's my reason for not going in there. Afghanistan different matter all together that where the threat was. I don't care if that place gets scraped off the planet. You're worried about the civilians in 3 countries but forgot to mention our citizen's that are in those countries. Where do those supposed rights you mention about foreign citizen come from at all, not from the same place mine were inherited from

    Blue colors? BLUE berries? Crazy Sand Jockey? Baseless accusations and ethnic slurs pretty much get you nowhere when trying to argue a point.

    Where do those supposed rights you mention about foreign citizen come from at all, not from the same place mine were inherited from

    I'm pretty sure that when they threw in Amendments 1-10, they considered them natural rights that all people should have, not JUST citizens of the United States. How you read that i'm suggesting people outside the US can vote in US elections I just don't understand.
     

    USMC_0311

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    So supporting gay rights, a woman's right to choose, marijuana legalization, clean/green renewable energy, and sex education that isn't abstinence-only makes me a socialist? Hahahahahahahaha.


    I don't know if it makes you a socialist but you are confused.

    God didn’t create Adam and Adam and abortion is not birth control its murder. I don't care about your other social issues (smoke all the pot you want), but I would think from being a member to this site that you do believe in the 2nd amendment and losing any gun rights threatens our ability to protect all the other God given rights we enjoy now.
     
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    I don't know if it makes you a socialist but you are confused.

    God didn’t create Adam and Adam and abortion is not birth control its murder. I don't care about your other social issues (smoke all the pot you want), but I would think from being a member to this site that you do believe in the 2nd amendment and losing any gun rights threatens our ability to protect all the other God given rights we enjoy now.

    Here let me help:

    Wikipedia said:
    Socialism refers to a broad array of ideologies and political movements with the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community. This control may be either exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils or on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state, worker, or community ownership of the means of production, goals which have been attributed to, and claimed by, a number of political parties and governments.

    This pretty much has nothing to do with what I mentioned, i'm glad i'm not a socialist for being concerned about social issues that affect America today.

    How do you feel about a woman who was raped, subsequently became pregnant from said rape, and does not want the child?
     

    Bigum1969

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    Read that again and tell me where I supported the ability of non-US citizens to vote in a US election. Go ahead, i'll wait. It's a damn shame I wasn't born on U.S. Soil, I could never be president!




    Blue colors? BLUE berries? Crazy Sand Jockey? Baseless accusations and ethnic slurs pretty much get you nowhere when trying to argue a point.



    I'm pretty sure that when they threw in Amendments 1-10, they considered them natural rights that all people should have, not JUST citizens of the United States. How you read that i'm suggesting people outside the US can vote in US elections I just don't understand.

    My bad. I meant to ask how are you going to support their right to voice their opinion?
     
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