Saint John Indiana, NOT gun friendly

[tv1217]

This is gonna get really interesting

 

[Bill B]

It's already way too interesting.

 

[walt o]

Will that be in the old city hall across from Hammond High

 

[Bill B]

Will that be in the old city hall across from Hammond High

It's the Lake County Court Building on Russell street. I forget the exact address, it's 215 or 213 or something like that.

 

[Tactical Dave]

Im sorry to hear about all that has happend Bill.

Out of all the threads I have read about armed LTCH holders going to a residence with a person who is not welcome there to get belongings of their I can't think of any that ended well for them....

I have allways felt that in these situations it is best to call the police at the non emergency number and have them come out and let them handle it.... regardless if you have a gun or not.

Again that is my opinion and some may say I am overly cautious but thankfully I have had yet to have ever have the cops called on me/be arrested ect ect.

Im not trying to be negative..... just mentioning the trend I have noticed. I honestley hope everything works out for you.

 

[CTC B4Z]

St. John eh? I live there

 

[walt o]

I carry all the time, so i have my firearm with me when ever.Does your statement mean that we should disarm when we try to help someone such as the OP did ?I hope he wins and collects a seatelment from the Town & the officer involved .If i can do anything to help or this forum to help we should , it is in our best interest as responsable gun owners.

 

[CTC B4Z]

yea I have no problem lending a hand to a fellow member, especially when I live in the very town this incident occured, but with my last name, and the history of it in this town, I cant have anything to do with SJPD...

 

[jedi]

Any updates on this in terms of the court?

 

[junglerogue]

I need cliff notes...did you get the audio/video from the call already? It may behoove you to have a copy and review (ref: freedom of information act, have your lawyer request it pre-trial). Also in reference to the criminal trespass, did your daughter in law request you to help her get her stuff. Any verbal agreement? Did she pay rent to the owner of the house, any evidence of a contract between herself and owner? Was there any sign posted no trespassing? Did you immediately comply with her request to exit? The report the officer filed is probably just an information report, which basically just covers their tale in situations as such? Is the department doing any IA or professional ethics review of said officer?
Lastly, +1 for KNOWING what's on the LTCH and being thoroughly versed in how it works. We should all take notes on being informed. Good luck...

 

[Bill B]

Information that I can divulge:
1.) The detective, officer and "complaintant" have all been summoned for depositions by my attorney, these will happen Friday afternoon.
2.) There is a hearing Monday @ 845 at the Lake county courthouse in Hammond. Anyone that wishes to come out for moral support is more than welcome.

Does anyone know a good 2A or civil rights attorney? I'm in Hammond but would be willing to travel to talk to one.

Junglerogue; There are answers to your questions, but I'm not comfortable divulging anything more at this time.

 

[Bill B]

i'll just avoid st john

That makes two of us

 

[jedi]

Bill B and others in NWI don't forget this SAT is the NWI INGO Meet & Shoot.
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo..._ingo_meet_and_shoot_-_sat_07_aug_2010_a.html

Perhaps this Bill B may help get your mind off all the "bad news" you have had on this case of yours. It really sux what you are going thru.

 

[Wild Deuce]

Bill B,

Just saw this thread today. I live in St. John. Sorry to hear about your troubles.

Yes, the NRA is the big boy on the block but don't overlook other resources. Have you contacted the Second Amendment Foundation? Gun Owners of America? They might not be able to come out and help you directly but they might have information to point you in the right direction.

Have youu contacted Bryan Lee Ciyou, Esq. (author Indiana Handgun Law). I believe he's a criminal law attorney but he might be able to point you towards a good Civil Rights / 2A attorney.

I'm also sending you a PM.

Good luck.

PS: Are you going to try and make the Meet & Shoot at Winamac this weekend?

 

[HollidaySlim]

Any update on this?

 

[rimfire_crazed]

Also anxiously awaiting updates.

 

[gglass]

Pins & needles... Pins & Needles...

 

[Bill B]

UPDATE:

According to my attorney the depositions Friday went extraordinarily well, even the prosecutor admitted one of the charges was "weak."
There is a hearing Sept 20 on our motion to dismiss, if it is not granted the trial date is set for next year.
There is, obviously, much more detail that I am not at liberty to discuss right now and I will ask everyone please, no more speculation.
Thanks for the support.
I will try to be at the meet and eat on the 28th.

 

[jedi]

Thanks for the update Bill B.
Hope to finally be able to put a face to the name.

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FYI NWI INGO members
INGO Open Carry Cigar Night is 19 AUG 10
See here for more info:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...en_carry_cigar_night_aug_19_schererville.html

The next MEET & EAT is on 28 AUG 10
See here for more info:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...ngo_meet_and_eat_oc_cc_-_sat_28_aug_10_a.html

The next MEET & SHOOT is on 18 OR 19 SEP 10 (go vote!)
See here for more info:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...590-nwi_ingo_meet_and_shoot_-_sep_2010_a.html

Appleseed for NWI
Need help on finding a location see here for more info:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...d_for_nwi_lake_porter_county.html#post1216426

 

[Bill B]

I'll be the weaponless fat guy.