Official Verdict: NOT Impressed
The new stippling is nice very reminiscent of an H&K P30, the trigger is lackluster and honestly not much better than the original albeit the reset is more tactile. The frame has been made thicker so there is less "Flex" and the guns slide will no longer go forward upon insertion of a magazine. Reset is not great either about double that of an P320, the slide appears to be basically the same with the original metal 3 dot sights. Cannot speak to the barrel quality, but then again my old M&P Pro shot fine for me.
Overall do not rush out to replace your generation 1 M&P's, honestly I have no idea why Smith and Wesson even bothered
I handled a standard black one today and the full FDE long slide. The stippling on the grips felt great and the trigger had the usual takeup but the break was very clean with a much improved and more tactile reset.
Forgot to add, to me the reset felt much shorter as well. I don't recall the price on the standard model but the FDE long slide was 579.00 so not too bad (and this was at a shop with so so pricing).
Official Verdict: NOT Impressed
The new stippling is nice very reminiscent of an H&K P30, the trigger is lackluster and honestly not much better than the original albeit the reset is more tactile. The frame has been made thicker so there is less "Flex" and the guns slide will no longer go forward upon insertion of a magazine. Reset is not great either about double that of an P320, the slide appears to be basically the same with the original metal 3 dot sights. Cannot speak to the barrel quality, but then again my old M&P Pro shot fine for me.
Overall do not rush out to replace your generation 1 M&P's, honestly I have no idea why Smith and Wesson even bothered
Do you shoot Glocks? If so, how would you compare the tactile reset and the reset travel relative to a Glock trigger?
I am a Glock shooter and actually bought a 9c, but even with a RAM installed, it wasn't enough of a tactile reset for me.
If the 2.0's alleviate that, and they come out with one in a 9c, I may just be interested again.
So, are the scallops/serrations on the lower front of the slide to facilitate a press check? Is there a discernible reason for the indentions in the frame in that same area?
I was hoping for a better version.... then the older ones would get cheaper.
I like generation one M&P's the best....
This is most disappointing. I own two M&P's already and was looking forward to this. The "improvements" are unimpressive, and I see no reason to even bother with one.
Whats the gen 5 glock have? One more backstrap?
Whats the gen 5 glock have? One more backstrap?
Official Verdict: NOT Impressed
The new stippling is nice very reminiscent of an H&K P30, the trigger is lackluster and honestly not much better than the original albeit the reset is more tactile. The frame has been made thicker so there is less "Flex" and the guns slide will no longer go forward upon insertion of a magazine. Reset is not great either about double that of an P320, the slide appears to be basically the same with the original metal 3 dot sights. Cannot speak to the barrel quality, but then again my old M&P Pro shot fine for me.
Overall do not rush out to replace your generation 1 M&P's, honestly I have no idea why Smith and Wesson even bothered
Bummer.... I was really hoping the trigger would have been improved.
It's interesting how people's perceptions and opinions differ. I thought it was a nice evolution in the line, they gave you good stippling that people usually pay for, they added the forward serrations I like, it's a nice almost custom touch, again something people often paid for. I always used the small backstrap so i'm not sure where the 4th backstrap fits in, maybe x-large? I've owned a ton of M&P's over the years and this trigger was much nicer, at least on the two samples I tried (and i've had apex equipped guns as well). I'm not sure what you were expecting, it's still an M&P there's only so much you can improve without coming out with an entirely different gun? It's no different than a glock gen 3 to gen 4 to 'gen 5', it's still a glock with just some minor refinements.
So I hear they also fixed the auto forwarding problem.