Russian ambassador shot!

[T.Lex]

Speaking of Russia, Revolutions, and Treason (oh my!)....
Russia charges cyber-security experts with treason - BBC News

At least they didn't die of radiation poisoning.

Yet.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Speaking of Russia, Revolutions, and Treason (oh my!)....
Russia charges cyber-security experts with treason - BBC News

At least they didn't die of radiation poisoning.

Yet.

They were too busy assassinating someone else.

 

[T.Lex]

They were too busy assassinating someone else.

Dude.

That's uncanny.

Russian critic Vladimir Kara-Murza suffers sudden organ failure - BBC News

 

[T.Lex]

Can't find the last thread on this, but this will do:
Russia hacking row: Moscow demands US return seized mansions - BBC News

So, it'll put DJT in a bit of a trick bag. Obama probably didn't have the right to do what he did, but how can current POTUS soften up without looking more complicit with Putin?

 

[Sylvain]

Can't find the last thread on this, but this will do:
Russia hacking row: Moscow demands US return seized mansions - BBC News

So, it'll put DJT in a bit of a trick bag. Obama probably didn't have the right to do what he did, but how can current POTUS soften up without looking more complicit with Putin?

I saw that.
The Russians threatened to seize some US property in Russia if they don't get their two properties back.

 

[jamil]

Can't find the last thread on this, but this will do:
Russia hacking row: Moscow demands US return seized mansions - BBC News

So, it'll put DJT in a bit of a trick bag. Obama probably didn't have the right to do what he did, but how can current POTUS soften up without looking more complicit with Putin?

DJT certainly has a tough row to hoe. If it's true that Obama didn't have the authority to do that, if Trump acts to make it right, it will likely get Dddress all up in his ****. You know how Trump hates having Dddress all up in his ****.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Can't find the last thread on this, but this will do:
Russia hacking row: Moscow demands US return seized mansions - BBC News

So, it'll put DJT in a bit of a trick bag. Obama probably didn't have the right to do what he did, but how can current POTUS soften up without looking more complicit with Putin?

He can't. Especially after the Russians have "demanded" to be given the properties back. They've made the situation even worse. If Trump gives in to an explicit demand, many will look at it as if he's a lapdog to the Russians. I mean seriously "demand?"

 

[Kutnupe14]

I saw that.
The Russians threatened to seize some US property in Russia if they don't get their two properties back.

They can have it.

 

[jamil]

They can have it.

That's probably the most politically expedient thing to do. Hang onto theirs. Let them seize ours. Then forget about it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

That's probably the most politically expedient thing to do. Hang onto theirs. Let them seize ours. Then forget about it.

Especially given Russia's "demands." A strong statement from Trump telling them to "pound sand" would certainly garner a point, and honestly ease some of my Russia concerns.

 

[T.Lex]

BBC reporting that the US has ordered Russia to close its San Francisco consulate.

This does not bode well.

 

[T.Lex]

In other news, alleged Putin assassination plotter was attacked and his wife killed (she was also a warrior against Russia).

Ambush wounds 'anti-Putin plotter' and kills wife near Kiev - BBC News

A Chechen man accused of plotting to kill Russian President Vladimir Putin was wounded and his wife killed when their car was ambushed near Ukraine's capital, Kiev.Adam Osmayev, wounded in one leg, said his wife Amina Okuyeva was shot in the head. A hail of bullets hit their car in Hlevaha village, a rural area.
Ukrainian officials suspect that the Russian state was involved.
Okuyeva has hero status in Ukraine for having fought the pro-Russian rebels.

 

[T.Lex]

For anyone thinking of spying on Russia....

Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' - BBC News

It isn't a particularly healthy lifestyle.

A man who is critically ill after being exposed to an unknown substance in Wiltshire is a Russian national convicted of spying for Britain, the BBC understands.

(Apparently not very lucrative, either. Dude got paid, supposedly, about $100k.)

 

[Sylvain]

For anyone thinking of spying on Russia....

Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' - BBC News

It isn't a particularly healthy lifestyle.



(Apparently not very lucrative, either. Dude got paid, supposedly, about $100k.)

I was just reading this article.

Spying on Russia is not that dangerous, it's the treason that will get you killed, it's worth when you're spying on your own country.

When Russia catch foreign spy they just arrest or deport them but they will kill their own.

 

[printcraft]

I was just reading this article.

Spying on the DNC is not that dangerous, it's the treason that will get you killed, it's worth when you're spying on your own party.

When DNC catch foreign spy they just deny what they found out, but they will kill their own, like Seth Rich

FTF American politics....

 

[BugI02]

For anyone thinking of spying on Russia....

Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' - BBC News

It isn't a particularly healthy lifestyle.



(Apparently not very lucrative, either. Dude got paid, supposedly, about $100k.)

Will a geiger counter become de rigueur for afternoon tea?

 

[T.Lex]

Will a geiger counter become de rigueur for afternoon tea?

Not sure why the purple is there.

Seems like any former-Russian spies would be issued one upon crossing Checkpoint Charlie.

Or whatever they use nowadays.

 

[T.Lex]

Russian spy: Sergei Skripal collapsed alongside daughter - BBC News

Not much of an update, but I didn't know this.

Former agent Mr Skripal, whose wife, son and older brother have all died in the past two years, was granted refuge in the UK following a "spy swap" in 2010.

The wife appears to have died from cancer. And in 2012. So, that's a sucky bit of reporting by the Beeb.

The son - and his girlfriend - were killed during a visit to St. Petersburg. Not finding any info on that, though. The daughter lives in Russia, but was visiting Skripal.

ETA
A different account suggests that the son died suddenly from "liver failure." And, oddly, the wife might've died in a car accident - not cancer.

 

[T.Lex]

No real update, although the authorities have "more information" on the substance the left Skripal, his 33 year old daughter, and an emergency worker still hospitalized.

This reporting mentions other suspicious deaths:
Sergei Skripal and the 14 deaths under scrutiny - BBC News

It also mentions this substance was involved in one of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelsemium

The symptoms are somewhat similar to what has been reported with Skripal.

 

[T.Lex]

Anonymous sources leaking that it is more likely to have been a nerve agent, perhaps VX or sarin.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...al-for-witnesses-as-cobra-meeting-takes-place

It looks like an office next to the restaurant they were at has been shut down and is being inspected.