Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[DadSmith]

Press conference by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg following the second day of the Meeting of NATO Ministers of Defence

(As delivered)

www.nato.int

NATO is ‘concerned that Russia is trying to stage a pretext for an armed attack against Ukraine,’ Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said, amid reports that Ukrainian troops and pro-Russian separatists exchanged fire across a frontline that divides them.

 

[DadSmith]

 

[oze]

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696703

"Remember Katyn in 1940, when the NKVD butchered 22,000 Poles and buried them in mass graves and we blamed the Nazis and almost got away with it?" That was awesome!"



I wouldn't believe those Russian bastards if they announced that the sun came up this morning.

 

[rooster]

other bits of prop-info... of course, one must consider sources, like reuters. they talk to russians, print what they say, print what our administration say.

This doesn't say who is doing the shooting or shelling, just a possible independent confirmation of fighting.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696875

So, the local thugs are doing their thing just like they always have been, Russia is having a very large joint military exercise and this is all freaking out the Western intel/leadership/media establishment.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-696748

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-696703

This part is extremely interesting to me. Why would they go to Russia and not Ukraine if these people are indeed Ukrainian?

“Many people I know who can get out (of Donetsk) left towards Russia today. “

 

[DoggyDaddy]

This part is extremely interesting to me. Why would they go to Russia and not Ukraine if these people are indeed Ukrainian?

“Many people I know who can get out (of Donetsk) left towards Russia today. “

It's all still the USSR... they just don't want to admit it.

 

[BigRed]

Out of curiosity, what is that worthless piece of **** obiden doing about the southern border of the country where he sits in the executive position?

 

[Tombs]

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Out of curiosity, what is that worthless piece of **** obiden doing about the southern border of the country where he sits in the executive position?

Not a damn thing. Those are future Democrat voters!

 

[BigRed]

Not a damn thing. Those are future Democrat voters!

That piece of **** can go **** himself all the way to Hell.

 

[rooster]

This is starting to sound like if California tried to annex Colorado because too many Californians moved there …….

 

[BigRed]

This is starting to sound like if California tried to annex Colorado because too many Californians moved there …….

I suspect it is part of why the folks in MT like to tell the folks of CA to get the hell out.

 

[nra4ever]

 

[Route 45]

 

[Nickbau5]

Bros, tanks 30 min out, just two more weeks until invasion, next weekend will be ww3 /s

 

[Keith_Indy]

not a big surprise that Western propogandists journalists are getting so much wrong when they can't even cover our country with any fairness or accuracy.

Journalists On The Ground Reveal How American Media Is Botching Coverage Of Russia

There is a lot that U.S. media is getting wrong in its coverage of Ukraine, only leading to

dailycaller.com

 

[KittySlayer]

Lighting War

Watching the news last night I mentioned to my wife that the Russians will make the Blitzkrieg look like a senior citizen wheelchair race(*). The wife had heard the term Blitzkrieg before but did not know what it meant. Made her watch a documentary with me. Soon instead of history it will be news again.

(*) There is an FDR joke in there somewhere.

 

[DadSmith]

US Ambassador to the OSCE Michael Carpenter:



“We assess that Russia probably has massed between 169,000-190,000 personnel in and near Ukraine as compared with about 100,000 on January 30. This estimate includes military troops along the border, in Belarus, and in occupied Crimea; Russian National Guard and other internal security units deployed to these areas; and Russian-led forces in eastern Ukraine. While Russia has sought to downplay or deceive the world about their ground and air preparations, the Russian military has publicized its large-scale naval exercises in the Black Sea, Baltic Sea and the Arctic. Russia has publicly said the Black Sea exercise alone involves more than 30 ships, and we assess that amphibious landing ships from the Northern and Baltic Fleets were sent to the Black Sea to augment forces there.

This is the most significant military mobilization in Europe since the Second World War.”

 

[Keith_Indy]

Serious question: How would military training exercises and troop movements look different from pre-invasion exercises and troop movements?

 

[Cavman]

Serious question: How would military training exercises and troop movements look different from pre-invasion exercises and troop movements?

Only thing I could think of is live ammo

 

[Keith_Indy]

Only thing I could think of is live ammo

This part is extremely interesting to me. Why would they go to Russia and not Ukraine if these people are indeed Ukrainian?

“Many people I know who can get out (of Donetsk) left towards Russia today. “

The people Russia encouraged to settle in Donbas no longer feel secure in their choice...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

As we detailed earlier, citing the risk of 'conflict escalation', separatists in Donbas (Eastern Ukraine) have announced the evacuation of women, children, and the elderly at the contact line to Russia, according to Interfax.